Is escalating the conflict by bombing the Houthis the way to go?

oh dear, people will generalise won’t they
Another patronising comment, followed by ‘expert’ info from Wikipedia
Nonsense

Glorianny

I’ve tried to educate you before but you blindly refuse to open your mind to the truth as it doesn’t suit your narrative.

Saudi is Sunni, as are Isis. Iran are Shia.

Nothing to do with helping anyone just religious nonsense of different sects. It’s also tribal. When are you going to stop regurgitating this nonsense?

glorianny don’t you mean Qatar?

Katie59

It’s not just the Jewish state is it Muslim extremists are dedicated to destroying all non Muslim cultures
They call themselves Hamas, ISIS, Houthi, Boco Haram, Hezbolah, Al-Kayda, Taliban and many other groups, they are armed by Iran principaly.
Given the chance they will kill as many non believers as they can, a large proportion of Muslims either passively or actively support their aims.

Oh dear people will generalise won't they. Who do you think were the enemies of ISIS and who funded them
Clue- you have the wrong country funding them. It was our great friends the Saudis The ones we supply weapons to so they can bomb Yemen and kill innocent people
Iran fought against ISIS or ISIL
Iran was the first country[2] to pledge assistance to Iraq to fight ISIL, deploying troops in early June 2014 following the North Iraq offensive
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_the_Islamic_State

It’s not just the Jewish state is it Muslim extremists are dedicated to destroying all non Muslim cultures
They call themselves Hamas, ISIS, Houthi, Boco Haram, Hezbolah, Al-Kayda, Taliban and many other groups, they are armed by Iran principaly.
Given the chance they will kill as many non believers as they can, a large proportion of Muslims either passively or actively support their aims.

Agreed Mollygo and Iam.

Iam64

It’s the classic responses Oreo. Avoidance minimisation and denial that Hamas is a terrorist organisation or, if it’s accepted so to be, it’s the fault of the Jewish people, then very existence of the state of Israel that ‘created Hamas”

Well put Iam64

I avoid giving to OXFAM too Oreo. After the incident a few years ago where OXFAM employees were found to be behaving very inappropriately with local women in another country, coupled with exorbitant salaries awarded to top OXFAM employees, I decided never to give to that charity again. There are plenty of other charities available to donate to.

It’s the classic responses Oreo. Avoidance minimisation and denial that Hamas is a terrorist organisation or, if it’s accepted so to be, it’s the fault of the Jewish people, then very existence of the state of Israel that ‘created Hamas”

There are more Muslim extremist groups in the world than any other kind Glorianny and unfortunately many home grown ones here in the UK.They have equal rights and opportunities.I think you are being wilfully naive in your comments.

Oxfam, another charity I wouldn’t give a penny to.

Oxfam have a petition to sign for a ceasefire www.oxfam.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-oxfam/gaza-israel-crisis-sign-petition-call-for-ceasefire-now/?

Really? During the marches in London Jews were carrying banners proclaiming’From The River To The Sea ?

Problem is, that's Netanyahu's wish as well.

From The River To The Sea

Oreo

It would sure revise their ideas if their own family members had been raped, murdered and burned or taken hostage.
Look, they have their ideas about how their part of the world should be, idealists and pacifists and so on, but then they come up to the reality of it, surrounded by people who hate Jews and whose whole object is to obliterate the State of Israel.
Even if a two state solution was in place these terrorists would still exist and make frequent attacks against Israel, they aren’t going to vanish because they have a decent job and way of life.
Think of all the terror attacks by Muslim extremists here and in other countries, they had good jobs, doctors amongst them, but they still went ahead as it’s their mindset.

But ordinary Palestinians do not want to obliterate Jews. They simply want to live somewhere where they have equal rights. If we have reached the stage where equal rights is regarded as just "idealist" we are truly Fucked
Show me one country where establishing equal rights and prosperity hasn't resulted in terrorism and attacks being reduced and practically eliminated. Yes they still happen but as someone pointed out earlier about Israel, there will always be extremists who will commit individual acts. Such people are not limited to the Muslim population.

We in Wales have the word ‘hiraeth’ it means a longing for and love of, having roots,Jews must have longed for roots

Indeed the Holocaust didn’t suddenly happen. It came after hundreds of years of antisemitism in Europe, whereby the Jews were constantly subjected to discrimination and pogroms. By the early 1900s many Jewish people had managed to become educated (despite the quotas and discrimination applied by the universities) and go on to work in professional fields, whilst others became successful businessmen. This was resented hugely by many people, despite the fact that in Eastern Europe many Jews remained very poor, and this resentment was used by the Nazis to justify the state initiated discrimination, starting in Germany in the early 1930s and continuing through until the end of WW2.
It isn’t hard to understand why the Jewish people wanted to return to their homeland, where some Jews had remained, despite every effort of surrounding tribes and invaders, for four thousand years. They fought to stay there with the already resident Jews, and some Arabs and Christians, and the state of Israel was born.

When she said’it is happening again ‘ she is referring to the increase in Anti Semitism, the Holocaust didn’t suddenly happen

Anniebach

Lily Ebert aged 100 years, victim of the holocaust, being asked
if it could happen again, - ‘it is, open your eyes’

I have read her book, it is a hard read, but a necessary read.

Lily Ebert aged 100 years, victim of the holocaust, being asked
if it could happen again, - ‘it is, open your eyes’

It would sure revise their ideas if their own family members had been raped, murdered and burned or taken hostage.
Look, they have their ideas about how their part of the world should be, idealists and pacifists and so on, but then they come up to the reality of it, surrounded by people who hate Jews and whose whole object is to obliterate the State of Israel.
Even if a two state solution was in place these terrorists would still exist and make frequent attacks against Israel, they aren’t going to vanish because they have a decent job and way of life.
Think of all the terror attacks by Muslim extremists here and in other countries, they had good jobs, doctors amongst them, but they still went ahead as it’s their mindset.

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

They should be allowed GrannyGravy if it’s against Jews

I feel desperately sorry for the Jewish community wherever they are in the world.

I ask myself what have my very dear Jewish friends and their families done to be living with escalating antisemitism every day.

A race of people persecuted for 1,000’s of years…

I'm sorry for all people living under discrimination and oppression.
I'm also sorry for all the Jewish people I know who stand up for human rights and democracy but are constantly designated by some as agreeing and supporting a right wing government and an apartheid state, simply because of the faith they were born into or have chosen.

Oreo

Glorianny
That was dated Feb 2023 I wonder wht those same people are thinking now after the events of last October.
But even if they are thinking the same it proves nothing, you can find left wingers and pacifists in any country, I expect Jeremy Corbyn and his allies would think the same.
Israel is not an apartheid country and wishing it could be called that, doesn’t, as Anniebach points out, make it true.

How does one group of people murdering another group change discrimination?
Are you saying that because of the 7/10 those people should revise their ideas about freedom, democracy and apartheid. Isn't that exactly what totalitarian regimes do?
Tell you your ideas about freedom are why people are being killed and tortured?

Anniebach

They should be allowed GrannyGravy if it’s against Jews

I feel desperately sorry for the Jewish community wherever they are in the world.

I ask myself what have my very dear Jewish friends and their families done to be living with escalating antisemitism every day.

A race of people persecuted for 1,000’s of years…