Another petition for a General Election now

Ive voted conservative all my life but I cannot at this moment say how I would vote if the GE were tomorrow.

Sadly, the election is likely to be towards the end of this year apparently. There is a theory that Sunak wants to be able to say that he was PM for 2 years.

DaisyAnne The petition that you refer to only has 1433 signatures. The one in my link has 282k. A better one to sign.

This is a link to the Uk govt parliament petition

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/641904

DaisyAnneReturns

This was not a thread about war GrannyGravy13, nor do I want to be dragged into that discussion. We are still allowed to pick and choose where we join a discussions, as far as I'm aware.

I am well aware what this thread is about DaisyAnneReturns

I have my thoughts on what should be of uppermost priority with regard to parliamentary debate time, you have yours.

It’s never a good idea when in opposition to make policy pronouncements too early because things change and they will be blamed fir not carrying the policy out.
Starmer also promised at the start to cooperate if at all possible to create
Cohesion, which I agreed with because all the shouting for the sake of it isn’t helpful.

Freya5

Anything the rich Vorderman suggests, who is she anyway, I decline to support.

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This was not a thread about war GrannyGravy13, nor do I want to be dragged into that discussion. We are still allowed to pick and choose where we join a discussions, as far as I'm aware.

There is going to be a General Election anyway - have a bit of patience!
All in good time - knee jerk reactions don't usually have a good outcome. Not that I think a petition will make things move any faster.
I get the impression that Keir Starmer is quite happy to wait so he can get all his ducks in row as he hasn't got a clue about what he wants to do so needs as much time as possible to prepare and all the political parties are in the same boat about what to put in their manifesto!

I think you're right Whitewavemark and it will be November.

My bet is November, which will be a very busy month with the U.K. and USA elections.

Busy for me I mean watching the results etc.

DaisyAnneReturns

You called it "wasting parliamentary time" and an "unnecessary petition" GrannyGravy13. How did my post twist those words? Isn't it everyones democratic right to make their voices heard in a any legal way?

so Government listening to the people doesn’t matter to you GrannyGravy13 unless they agree with you

How did you come to that conclusion?

I still stand by my opinion that at this current moment with war raising its ugly head on several fronts that the Government has better things to do with its parliamentary time that’s debate whether or not to have an early general election.

Whether it’s an open letter or petition is irrelevant, I will reiterate Parliament and it’s MP’s are aware how the electorate feel due to numerous polls…

The real problem for me is that even if there is an earlier General Election there is absolutely no-one I would feel able to vote for. Even if Ed Davey steps down.. It's absolutely dire..

No, I will not sign this petition, there will be a general election this year, and there is alot of immediate problems at the moment to deal with.

You called it "wasting parliamentary time" and an "unnecessary petition" GrannyGravy13. How did my post twist those words? Isn't it everyones democratic right to make their voices heard in a any legal way?

It's not a 'petition', GG13, it's an open letter to the Prime Minister.

Parliament is already scheduled for a debate on a petition calling for an immediate General Election.

They'll know when there's a general election wont they. You've said yourself that it's "highly unlikely" parliament would force a general election, even more unlikely I'd have thought when one's due to be called in the next 12 months anyway.

So, a waste of time.

DaisyAnneReturns

Smileless2012

I'm so jealous Oreo.

Is it democratic for those dissatisfied with the government to petition parliament for an early election DaisyAnnReturns?

Why wouldn't it be? Parliament still makes the decision. The people have just alerted them to their views. How else are they going to know?

Polls?

Smileless2012

I'm so jealous Oreo.

Is it democratic for those dissatisfied with the government to petition parliament for an early election DaisyAnnReturns?

Why wouldn't it be? Parliament still makes the decision. The people have just alerted them to their views. How else are they going to know?

Smileless2012

I'm so jealous Oreo.

Is it democratic for those dissatisfied with the government to petition parliament for an early election DaisyAnnReturns?

Of course it is. Democracy allows for all citizens to express their views, and that, of course, includes those who oppose the government.

as far as I'm aware, parliament does not have the power to force the current government to call one sooner than they wish to do so.

Parliament does have the power as it it sovereign (which means that the government has to observe its wishes).

Parliament could, if it so wishes', call for a vote of no confidence in the government. If it won the vote that would force a general election. Highly unlikely, of course, but don't write parliament off as being powerless.

DaisyAnneReturns

GrannyGravy13

With the situation in the Middle East becoming increasingly unstable the last thing we need is an early election, or wasting parliamentary time with a debate on an unnecessary petition.

So government listening to people doesn't matter to you GrannyGravy13, unless they agree with you?

Very democratic.

You have a way of reading a post and twisting it to suit your view/agenda.

There is going to be an election within twelve months.

The parties know their standing with the electorate as there are numerous polls each week. Politicians are obviously listening to the electorate which is evident by their flip flopping in interviews, articles etc.

Parliamentary debates at this current time should in my opinion be about matters of seriousness, not about the obvious unpopularity of the current government.

Hope that clarifies my opinion for you.

I can say, unlike often elsewhere, it wasnt about money[though pensions came into it].
It was however, about power. And bullying. And sticking up for their friends. And lying.

The redacted documents in the programme, hit a nerve.
That is what I saw too.
In our organisation case however, there was just enough non redacted, to be able to piece together some helpful information.

I have probably said enough. So wont be saying more.

Namsnanny

fancythat

I cant see Ed Davey surviving the scandal.
He has to be toast I would have thought.

And come to that, I am getting more and more suspicious of anyone in higher power.
Celebrity, MP, anyone.
They are all beginning to alarm me.

I work voluntary organisation. I found out far far more than I wanted to, about people at the very top of it.
Opened my eyes.

I could now be biased.
But the more that comes to light about top people, the more alarmed I become.

Care to spill?
On another thread obvs 😂

No, I cant.

As like lots of things, it got legal.

I'm so jealous Oreo.

Is it democratic for those dissatisfied with the government to petition parliament for an early election DaisyAnnReturns?

Callistemon21

Oreo

Bit rude there DaisyAnnReturns
Minorities at the extremes on here?
Carol Vorderman is a minor tv celeb, why would anyone sensible be influenced by her thoughts or politics.

Did she get the 50% positive for rear of the year?

No, that was me 🤪