Trump crushes his Republican rivals in the Iowa caucus!

Where do up you start with someone like trump. If he wasn’t so potentially dangerous he would be a joke. A total embarrassment.
I am astonished that people would vote for such an inadequate man to be leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world. Words-fail.

Grantanow

A nation of some 350 million people and they can't find better candidates than Trump and Biden!

I couldn’t agree more. Surely there must be two suitable candidates who are not either an elderly criminal or seemingly suffering from dementia. Someone in their late forties/early fifties would be ideal. The trouble is that while we have no say in the matter, the USA is a superpower and what affects them affects the rest of the world. I have always thought that a Republican president is generally bad news for the rest of the world and Donald Trump is beyond the pale but he has no strong opposition.

I do like reading some of the political threads[not all], on GN.
In real life, I find myself withdrawing from watching world events and politics, to some degree. Partly because I feel disallusioned, I part feel like I have heard it all before, and also a part of it all, is time/priority, issue.

But at least on threads like this[I include the recent Houthis thread], I can quite quickly see differing points of view.

I am fed up of switching on a news channel[more or less all of them] and them being so one sided, one way or another. Tedious.

Well said.

AGAA4

Syracuse it's good to hear from an American citizen on this issue. I have read through the thread and my opinion if Trump stands. He is a dangerous man and should never be elected again.

Anyone one from the NYC / New Jersey area would have nothing good to say about Trump , his ego , his slum lord tactics and cheating of contractors that built his various building . He is a crook and to somehow equate him with religious groups that emulate him is the biggest joke of all . His supporters are not the brightest . That is for all to see when they are interviewed .

If the dreaded trump is re-elected I foresee disaster in the USA. How anyone can support this man in the light of all that is known about him is unbelievable. Any person who can’t accept that they have made mistakes or that they have lost, is surely beyond redemption. He is evil, despicable and border-line fascist.

Hear Hear GSM.

Yep, just seen your correction!

Norah, I’m talking about Hilary in 2016 not the most recent election.

merlotgran

^Take out the "I think" and you are left with - "the world is a safer place with Trump leading it"^

That’s my point. It was an opinion, not a statement. You clearly don’t know the difference.

I think you’re the one who should be apologising.

I think you're being obtuse.

The World is not led by Trump.
The World is not led by Trump.
The World is not led by Trump.

That isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

Syracuse it's good to hear from an American citizen on this issue. I have read through the thread and my opinion if Trump stands. He is a dangerous man and should never be elected again.

MaizieD

You self corrected while I was typing, Norah. Sorry 😀

Thank you. My sloppy mistake.

You self corrected while I was typing, Norah. Sorry 😀

I fail to understand why any woman could support this appalling misogynist.

MaizieD

Norah

AmberSpyglass

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

NO.

'Biden ultimately received the majority in the Electoral College with 306 electoral votes, while Trump received 232.'

'Biden Popular Votes 81,282,916. Trump popular votes 74,223,369.'

Aren't you et your elections a bit muddled, Norah?

Biden didn't stand in 2016. It was Clinton who won the popular vote.

I can't understand anyone supporting a candidate who was prepared to refuse to accept the result of the 2020 election, to the extent of inciting insurrection. US democracy is dead if Trump wins.

And Biden has done very well for the US economy.

Indeed.

I self quickly corrected.

2016: Clinton won popular and lost electoral.

Norah

AmberSpyglass

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

NO.

'Biden ultimately received the majority in the Electoral College with 306 electoral votes, while Trump received 232.'

'Biden Popular Votes 81,282,916. Trump popular votes 74,223,369.'

Aren't you et your elections a bit muddled, Norah?

Biden didn't stand in 2016. It was Clinton who won the popular vote.

I can't understand anyone supporting a candidate who was prepared to refuse to accept the result of the 2020 election, to the extent of inciting insurrection. US democracy is dead if Trump wins.

And Biden has done very well for the US economy.

I don't understand why anyone thinks a narcissistic, sociopathic grifter is someone they would like as a leader of a country. Do their supporters have the same characteristics?

Urmstongran

People obviously remember what the US was like under Trump, before Biden destroyed it.

What EVER did Biden destroy ? He has improved the lifestyle and brought sanity back to the USA. The Daily Mail writes so many falsehoods about what the USA is like ( in the negative) since Biden that you will never get facts there. You will get factually incorrect wind you ups . Rmstongran you spout as if you have some sort of knowledge of USA life, but you don’t. Trump is a dangerous leader who uses the same tactics as Hitler did when speaking. Native New Yorker here.

AmberSpyglass

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

Apology. I see you posted 2016.

Indeed, Trump won electoral whilst Clinton won popular vote.

Take out the "I think" and you are left with - "the world is a safer place with Trump leading it"

That’s my point. It was an opinion, not a statement. You clearly don’t know the difference.

I think you’re the one who should be apologising.

nanna8

He looks after the USA. He can communicate with countries like North Korea because he ‘gets’ them. He is not so belligerent as Biden, probably doesn’t have shares in weaponry. He is more energetic, speaks better. Not so likely to start a World War ( that’s a big one ) . For my country he would be far worse ,of course, but for the US - better. You asked. I don’t live there so I am not voting for him anyway so what I think is irrelevant, same as the rest of us. Oh, and he understands and relates to the Baptists.

Trump does not look after the USA. He looks after himself. He was a life long Democrat until he decided to run for President. He switched to Republican because they would be stupid enough to vote for him ..his words ! Trump is nothing but belligerent ! He spews lies as facts and has put the USA in danger while in office ( see many quotes from HIS former administration appointees) Trump almost started a CIVIL war with his dangerous rhetoric on Jan 6., Biden isn’t belligerent, he has decades of experience in public office. Baptists ? ahead was never ever religious and courts the extreme right evangelicals . A scary bunch at the best of times. He only cares about them as a voters bloc.

AmberSpyglass

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

NO.

'Biden ultimately received the majority in the Electoral College with 306 electoral votes, while Trump received 232.'

'Biden Popular Votes 81,282,916. Trump popular votes 74,223,369.'

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

I see that Farage was with Trump. What with the threat of Trump winning the election and Richard Tice now being on UK tv as much as Farage (which means I have to turn the tv off) used to be I’ve decided that I’m going to ignore politics for a while and, to preserve what little sanity I have left, am absorbing myself in children’s fantasy fiction. I honestly can’t cope with it. I thought we’d seen the back of the orange one.

Oreo

LondonMzFitz

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

The whole thing, troops out of Afghanistan, was set in motion by President Trump who made a deal with the taliban to do so.
Biden merely went along with it.

No - Trump had been in talks with the Taliban leading up to his defeat at the election, and part of the agreement was that the US would (and did) release 5000 Taliban fighters. The one American prisoner was not released.

Trump - as usual talked about troop withdrawal, and agreed that it should take place by May 2021, but in fact he had zero plans as to how this should take place which lead to the chaos that we saw when Biden was forced to withdraw at speed.