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Should we be a bit more like the French and revolt?

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Dinahmo Mon 29-Jan-24 19:05:12

En route to Bergerac from Perigueux today we passed a long file of tractors - more than 100 - heading north with police motor cyclists escorting them . Also several vans and lorries with placards. I think that they were headed towards Rungis in the southern suburbs of Paris. On roundabouts and roads leading to autoroutes there are piles of old tyres and other rubbish, presumably waiting for the next blockade to take place. There were some police standing around but no sign of any action.

Apparently French govts are scared by the masses because of the possibility of another revolution.

Our govts aren't scared of us but has the time come when they should be?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Feb-24 13:45:18

Outside the European Parliament…

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:44:19

Meanwhile over in Brittany the fishermen are now joining in blocking the routes. Well they can exactly drive their trawlers to Paris or Brussels can they?! Solidarity is a big French trait too which we don't find here so much.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Feb-24 13:33:05

The centre of Brussels is looking more like a war zone this lunchtime than a major European City.

Police have resorted to firing rubber bullets at the protestors, not sure I wish to see these sort of scenarios in London.

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:23:17

Whereas these two were the real bromance! ❤️

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:22:32

I'm not sure Macron looked particularly enamoured one way or the other with KS.

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:20:27

caknib

Malentendu peutetre?

Lost in translation? grin
C'est du passé. flowers

Philippa111 Thu 01-Feb-24 13:18:18

I think for my generation, born 1950, it started with ,”Children should be seen but not heard”. At a young age we were conditioned to not be able to voice our opinions or ideas, and heaven forbid that you should challenge parents or anyone in authority.

We were easily silenced and if
, as a woman, you did have strong opinions you were told “an angry woman is an ugly woman!!
My mother also said ‘ Manners make the the Man’

All in all we are far too polite

caknib Thu 01-Feb-24 13:16:24

Malentendu peutetre?

Dandylion Thu 01-Feb-24 13:08:57

Hooray for the French! But then they have Revolution in their blood...
We are too easily put off by waffling promises but no action - witness those out there who still think that Boris was a great Prime Minister..... Roll on the Election when maybe we can get a LibLab coalition and a few people with an actual IQ making the decisions.

lizzypopbottle Thu 01-Feb-24 13:06:38

I think we should be more like France in having a secular society laid down in law. People should be free to worship in whatever religion or faith they choose but religious exhortation, praying, clothing and other symbols should be confined to their homes or places of worship and not be allowed in schools or public places. I

Good luck to the French farmers. Where would we be without our farmers?

Name me a war or campaign of persecution, throughout history, going back to the crusades, that hasn't been caused by fanatical, religious belief!

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:03:32

caknib

Don't address me as silly. Merci.

Pardonnez-moi. It was meant playfully, not that you are stupid.

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 13:01:11

Anniel

Vegansrock,

I smiled when I read your comment. The difference between the French and us is that British tradition is based on obeying the rules. However, the French also say they obey all the EU rules but in reality they act much more in French ways and sometimes ignore laws they are not happy to implement. President Macron recently went against EU law because it did not suit his govt. I cannot bring to mind what it was but some of you will know. In that regard they are insouciant and I love their savoir faire when it comes to French attitudes. Towards the EU.

I agree with your observations Anniel.
I reckon Macron must be thinking to himself, (although he is 100 x more intelligent than I am), that he might as well stick to his guns and do what he wants, because he can't be elected for another term anyway.

caknib Thu 01-Feb-24 12:59:20

Don't address me as silly. Merci.

Joseann Thu 01-Feb-24 12:56:26

caknib

Thats interesting win. I've never heard anybody refer to The Spanish.

Anyway I better shut up before I get slapped down again.

Don't be silly caknib, no one slapped you down. A grammatical explanation was given to your question which led to an interesting discussion.

Anniel Thu 01-Feb-24 12:35:05

Vegansrock,

I smiled when I read your comment. The difference between the French and us is that British tradition is based on obeying the rules. However, the French also say they obey all the EU rules but in reality they act much more in French ways and sometimes ignore laws they are not happy to implement. President Macron recently went against EU law because it did not suit his govt. I cannot bring to mind what it was but some of you will know. In that regard they are insouciant and I love their savoir faire when it comes to French attitudes. Towards the EU.

caknib Thu 01-Feb-24 12:18:41

Thats interesting win. I've never heard anybody refer to The Spanish.

Anyway I better shut up before I get slapped down again.

win Thu 01-Feb-24 11:45:40

The Danes and the Danish is the same in danish i.e. danskerne

greenlady102 Thu 01-Feb-24 11:44:43

No. Next question?

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 11:13:42

Well, he wasn't pretty but he had a certain je ne sais quoi

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 11:12:44

My Citroën was very pretty but kept letting me down.

(My French boyfriend was much the same.)

Katie59 Thu 01-Feb-24 08:55:17

I don’t think French design or reliability is anything special but they do look after their national industries far better than we do. We only see short term political advantage ignoring any strategic interest of the nation

MaizieD Wed 31-Jan-24 22:11:28

WRT French cars, I'm on my 6th Peugeot in 20 years and not one has ever let me down.

nanna8 Wed 31-Jan-24 21:58:19

French cars- oo la la. They look so good. They know how to design stuff and they are so proud of their country which is as it should be. They may run down their government, many do but they are very patriotic.

Louella12 Wed 31-Jan-24 21:49:42

These farming protests have been ongoing for a few weeks now. Not just the French by any Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and more. Thousands of tractors on roadways. Manure and slurry. Over buildings

MSM has been strangely quiet. Not sure why.

maddyone Wed 31-Jan-24 21:26:50

Joseann I agree French, well most European roads actually, are better than British roads. Our roads have been neglected for so long and the potholes are horrendous on many roads. Our government and councils seem to use the net zero target as an excuse to avoid building new roads, or even repairing existing roads.