Should we be a bit more like the French and revolt?

Callistemon21

nanna8

The ones here disrupt peoples lives and stop them getting to work. They lose sympathy because of how they are. If they want to rebel about something they should go and chuck themselves over the steps to parliament, not block the roads up. They did this again recently because of ‘invasion day’ 200 plus years ago. That and the pro Palestinian lot.

Your present government is decimating farming, making farming so much more stressful and difficult, nanna8. They have an agenda and it is not to support Australian farmers.

I don't think the population would survive for long without farmers.
It is your government you need to criticise, not the hardworking farmers.

They are truly awful. We thought the last lot were bad but this lot are beyond bad. They sell stuff off to overseas investors at the drop of a hat and don’t support local industry at all. The PM seems to want to be a crowd pleaser, embarrassing. He comes across as a wannabe buffoon as thick as two short planks. I reckon the dreadful Rishi is probably better! Rant over.

Well, I don't blame them!

No way halfpint! They don't mess around do they? Have they been storing up loads of manure specially?

Hope you're stocked up, halfpint

We had manure dumped at the entrance to Cora and Casino on Sunday , Leclerc followed and I read in the local paper that Aldi and lidl are down for tomorrow. The autoroute has been blocked for a week and working from home is back as a result. It's a bit grim

eg The English, The Welsh, The Scots

But Australians, Americans, New Zealanders

🤔

I'm not quite sure what you're asking caknib, but French and Danish are nouns which when preceded by The are treated as plural, meaning the people of that particular country. When the noun stands alone and is singular, it refers to the language spoken.
Of course it can also be an adjective.

I wonder where The came from as in The French? The Danish anybody? The Italian?

Odd isn't it.

I worked in Care many moons ago, and one of my clients was a Farmers wife. (Sheep) Her husband spent many hours filling in forms and other documentation, taking up most of their dining room table on a permanent basis. This was about 25 years ago!!!

Joseann

^I think it is becoming more bureaucratic here^.
Maybe you're right. Jeremy Clarkson did a lot of grumbling about the red tape for running his farm.

Oh yes!
He certainly highlighted some of the petty bureaucracy farmers have to endure.

I think it is becoming more bureaucratic here.
Maybe you're right. Jeremy Clarkson did a lot of grumbling about the red tape for running his farm.

Joseann

I'm sure no-one would disagree that French bureaucracy is crazy. So much unnecessary red tape must frustrate the farmers, all those rules and regulations. I remember the administrative procedures being really complicated, so I don't blame the farmers revolting in the way they have done for many generations.
One of our farmer friends in France told us that he spent half his time on his tractor and half his time in his office preparing papers. I don't think that happens in the UK? He gave up pig farming because he would have needed to borrow so much money to get his farm up to speed with all the regulations, and then more paperwork to do with loans and subsidies. (He now runs a simple business where he does ultrasounds of pregnant sows' tummies to see how many piglets will be born!).
I don't understand why governments want to make life so difficult for their workers.

One of our farmer friends in France told us that he spent half his time on his tractor and half his time in his office preparing papers. I don't think that happens in the UK?

I think it is becoming more bureaucratic here.

It certainly is in Australia and many Governments seem to put more and more obstacles and red tape in the way of farmers. What are they hoping for? To reduce our carbon footprint to meet targets but at the same time ignore the fact that, by importing more food from poorer countries, they allow these countries to decimate their forests, ignore international agreements?

Food security is vital.
Too much food is wasted as well.

The average person uses Doctors and Dentists a few times a year but everyone needs farmers every day of the year.

Santé Mamie and Oreo.
I don't drink during the day but have just poured a little glass now home!

I'm sure no-one would disagree that French bureaucracy is crazy. So much unnecessary red tape must frustrate the farmers, all those rules and regulations. I remember the administrative procedures being really complicated, so I don't blame the farmers revolting in the way they have done for many generations.
One of our farmer friends in France told us that he spent half his time on his tractor and half his time in his office preparing papers. I don't think that happens in the UK? He gave up pig farming because he would have needed to borrow so much money to get his farm up to speed with all the regulations, and then more paperwork to do with loans and subsidies. (He now runs a simple business where he does ultrasounds of pregnant sows' tummies to see how many piglets will be born!).
I don't understand why governments want to make life so difficult for their workers.

My history GCE period was 1685-1820. At least with the Glorious Revolution, James 11nd and family were allowed to escape unlike poor Louis. One execution was clearly enough!!

Mamie

Joseann

Thanks Mamie.

What I sort of meant in relation to this thread, was that comparing the French mentality and response makes us reflect on our our own British response.

Sorry, I'm rushing to lunch.

While I was watching it I was trying to imagine British farmers doing the same!
The last line of your post sounds very French. 😂😂😂

Yeah it really does, will there be involved? I’ll join you in two minutes.😂

In answer to the OP, I think we do have a history here of protesting as I can think of loads over the years.
The French farmers are in a league of their own tho!

MaizieD

vegansrock

Urmstongran

The EU exists in name only. Every country naturally protects their own interest.

Really? Then what was all the fuss about leaving? If we protested about foreign imports that would be about 70% of the food we eat taken out of the shops. At least the French produce the majority of their own food.

Never expect any consistent logic from a Leave voter...

And here it is, the first rude comment on the thread.Why oh why do posters feel the need to be personal.

Jaberwok

The American War of Independence 1775-1783, partly influenced the French in their own revolution.

Yes agreed. I did a brilliant French history course at my local French U3A and the teacher from the lycée talked quite a lot about that. The local history part of it was fascinating too. Louis XVI came through our town on his last journey in France before the revolution. Some of the audience had folk memories handed down through the generations.
I do wonder how many people in the UK would know about the implications of The Glorious Revolution. It would be an interesting comparison.

vegansrock

Urmstongran

The EU exists in name only. Every country naturally protects their own interest.

Really? Then what was all the fuss about leaving? If we protested about foreign imports that would be about 70% of the food we eat taken out of the shops. At least the French produce the majority of their own food.

Never expect any consistent logic from a Leave voter...

The American War of Independence 1775-1783, partly influenced the French in their own revolution.

Urmstongran

The EU exists in name only. Every country naturally protects their own interest.

Really? Then what was all the fuss about leaving? If we protested about foreign imports that would be about 70% of the food we eat taken out of the shops. At least the French produce the majority of their own food.

The EU exists in name only. Every country naturally protects their own interest.

There is a push for Europe to produce less food.
Farmers are enticed to gve up farming the land with financial inducements.
Ireland is under pressure to stop beef farming.
We've stood by and watched the Dutch farmers land be taken out of the industry.
We no longer have the very fertile land in Ukraine available.

There are lots of factors, but in the end it boils down to enforcing the net zero policies.

This is one protest (including Germany) I feel I should read more about.