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Emergency Aid To Gaza Halted Because Israel Says So?

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mae13 Tue 30-Jan-24 01:14:25

Israel claims that UN aid workers were involved in the October 7 attack and - without any independent proof - UN suspends aid with immediate effect.
Why? Does Netanyahu - an unbalanced individual at best - have so much influence on the United Nations, an organisation which has proved itself fairly useless down the decades?

ronib Fri 02-Feb-24 09:12:56

What is a tolerable level anyway when people are being killed? Who is Biden to set the rules?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Feb-24 01:56:12

Reached an intolerable level!!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Feb-24 19:43:02

Violence in the West Bank committed by Israelis has reached a tolerable level according to Biden.

Settlers have been sanctioned.

Glorianny Thu 01-Feb-24 14:06:17

Katie59

Oreo

But many more supporting hamas, thousands.
The suspension of funds should be extended if anything until the facts are established tho.
So much cash poured into Gaza and was used by hamas to build their hateful regime.

Either actively or passively most people seem to support Hamas activity in Palestine, I’m not one of those Hamas is directly prolonging the conflict for purely idealogical reasons

No one is supporting Hamas. I am supporting the Palestinian people who were driven from their homes by rape and murder. Who have been held captive in a country which is one of the poorest and most densely populated areas in the world. Had food, fuel and water restricted, been unable to travel or leave the country. Been bombed by successive Israeli governments into (as the Israelis claimed) the Middle Ages and are now being slaughtered. Not just by guns and bombs. but by starvation, drought, lack of medical care and lack of proper shelter. Those are the people who are suffering.

maddyone Thu 01-Feb-24 09:49:03

That’s what’s so sad, what used to be trusted institutions are all too often not trusted any longer because we hear of misappropriation, immoral or illegal practices, greed, and misuse or mismanagement of funds. It’s probably one of the reasons that charities are reporting falling donations now, and many people don’t trust governments, companies, and international organisations such as the UN or the WHO any longer.

Galaxy Thu 01-Feb-24 08:18:22

I dont think its whether they are shut down or not, it's that many of us just roll our eyes now when the UN is used as some sort of moral authority. But that is something that is happening to many organisations and it's not a good place to be.

Katie59 Wed 31-Jan-24 20:15:56

Oreo

But many more supporting hamas, thousands.
The suspension of funds should be extended if anything until the facts are established tho.
So much cash poured into Gaza and was used by hamas to build their hateful regime.

Either actively or passively most people seem to support Hamas activity in Palestine, I’m not one of those Hamas is directly prolonging the conflict for purely idealogical reasons

Maremia Wed 31-Jan-24 19:56:23

Thanks Caleo, so 12 took part in the atrocity, have been dismissed, and are facing criminal prosecution, but the whole operation must be closed down? Is that a general principle, that a huge organisation, with some corrupt, murderous, rapist employees, must close down? Should that principle apply to organisations in the UK, or only to those in Gaza?

bmacca Wed 31-Jan-24 19:47:25

They have most definitely said it, maybe you missed it Anniebach
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/29/israeli-ministers-attend-conference-calling-for-voluntary-migration-of-palestinians

susytish Wed 31-Jan-24 19:45:26

Anniebach I don’t understand your post.

Glorianny Wed 31-Jan-24 19:42:31

This seems to be what some people think is warranted. I wonder if children having limbs amputated without anaesthetic is sufficient revenge for 7/10

Anniebach Wed 31-Jan-24 19:30:18

Again - said as much, this is not ‘said’

susytish Wed 31-Jan-24 19:27:39

It looks as though the aim is to flatten Gaza and then have settlements there. Some of the Israeli cabinet have met and said as much. If this is correct then it is beyond awful.
The rest of the world looks on, for their own reasons.

MayBee70 Wed 31-Jan-24 19:26:54

Maremia

Anniebach, where in this thread do you see support for Hamas and the atrocities they committed? Being concerned about suffering children in Gaza, is not support for Hamas.
On another point, if Netanyahu gets his way, and all Palestinians are removed from Gaza, where do they go? How many millions of them? Small boats?????

They can’t even do that can they because they don’t control their own coastline I believe. They are prisoners in their own country ( what’s left of it).

Anniebach Wed 31-Jan-24 19:01:00

Yes Oreo I have even been asked ‘where is your humanity’ ?

Oreo Wed 31-Jan-24 18:43:38

Anniebach

UNRWA, some are certainly supporting ,

My concern is for all, I will not play ‘the children card ‘

I agree.
There seems to be a sort of tearful one upmanship going on, as in oh I’m more caring than you are so I must be right.

Oreo Wed 31-Jan-24 18:41:03

But many more supporting hamas, thousands.
The suspension of funds should be extended if anything until the facts are established tho.
So much cash poured into Gaza and was used by hamas to build their hateful regime.

Caleo Wed 31-Jan-24 17:48:14

www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/26/unrwa-investigation-staff-7-october-attack-israel

Please see reliable reportage 12 (twelve )UNHCR employees were involved in the crime .

Maremia Wed 31-Jan-24 16:33:39

Yes, some of them took part in that unspeakable day of terror. Are they still in post?

Anniebach Wed 31-Jan-24 16:06:17

Some working as UNRWA workers were involved in the 7thOctober attack

Maremia Wed 31-Jan-24 15:57:40

I can't speak for others, but what comes over to me is that people are supporting the essential aid work provided by UNRWA, not any Hamas terrorists involved in its structure, but I will play the 'children' card, neither Palestinian nor Israeli children deserve any of this.

Anniebach Wed 31-Jan-24 14:55:44

UNRWA, some are certainly supporting ,

My concern is for all, I will not play ‘the children card ‘

Maremia Wed 31-Jan-24 14:37:21

Anniebach, where in this thread do you see support for Hamas and the atrocities they committed? Being concerned about suffering children in Gaza, is not support for Hamas.
On another point, if Netanyahu gets his way, and all Palestinians are removed from Gaza, where do they go? How many millions of them? Small boats?????

Anniebach Wed 31-Jan-24 14:16:13

No, but is it good enough to hurt some children?

MayBee70 Wed 31-Jan-24 14:09:57

Anniebach

Feed the terrorists, no matter they rape babies

Is starving Palestinian babies good enough revenge for you then? An eye for an eye sad