Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

Elegran

tickingbird
Yes we do have plenty of homegrown criminals but that is absolutely no reason to import more.
It is difficult to identify the criminals before they commit any crimes here.

Not difficult once he’s been convicted of sexual offences committed here BEFORE being granted asylum!

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

In fact I just heard on Sky News that the vicar of Wethersfield, where an asylum centre is situated, baptised 20 men in the last week. It beggars belief.

Amazing!
Have they seen the light or is he a gullible fool?

I think the answer is the latter. You can't just turn up and ask for Baptism, it is a long process, this evil doer must be a very accomplished liar. Aided by his lawyer maybe. Who knows,but these aiders and abetters have a lot to answer for.

cakmib

wonder away....the HO is a joke, not fit for purpose.

Well cakmib, I’m certain to do just that, because whatever is said in Parliament, nothing whatsoever will change.

Because there’s too many people in this country sticking up for them, fighting the system to keep them here, & basically bending over backwards for them.

Christ knows why.

I'm certainly wondering. I hope decision makers are too.

wonder away....the HO is a joke, not fit for purpose.

Germanshepherdsmum

No, I don’t think, from what I have read, that his application was granted on appeal. I understand he made two applications which were refused, and then a third which was granted because he had become a Christian. So that would have been dealt with by a civil servant.

I wonder if the civil servant knew he’d been refused twice and was a convicted criminal of sexual offences.

I wonder why civil servants are even making these decisions. Their own prejudices will more than likely come into play. If they are very sympathetic to asylum seekers, maybe that will make it impossible to make an unbiased decision, based on the facts.

I wonder why asylum seekers are allowed to continue to make repeated applications, when they have already been refused asylum.

I wonder why asylum seekers who have been denied asylum in Britain, are not removed quickly, back to their country of origin.

I wonder why if they have no documents, they are not sent back to the country they claim to be from.

No, I don’t think, from what I have read, that his application was granted on appeal. I understand he made two applications which were refused, and then a third which was granted because he had become a Christian. So that would have been dealt with by a civil servant.

So the decision to allow this man remain probably was due to one person? This judge? Wonder how he sleeps at night. Maybe this awful case will give such judges some pause for thought? I do hope so.

Absolutely.

And I agree completely that minimising crimes such as flashing leads to very dangerous situations particularly for women.

caknib

Just for the record,I most certainly did express sympathy for the victims. It is a hideous and unthinkable crime.

People of all backgrounds sadly,commit crime which are repulsive.

This perpetrator apparently is an Afghan,a manipulator and criminal. The HO is clearly not fit for purpose and he should never have been allowed to apply for asylum.
What about other male Afghans who seek asylum? Are they all equally dangerous? The people who acted as translators for example?

You can’t stop someone applying for asylum. But the application can be refused, and in this case obviously should have been. I trust we will hear more about the circumstances in which the third application was granted. It troubles me that we don’t return people to Afghanistan - so what do we do with them? Simply allow them to pretend they have become Christian (which would also preclude deportation to any Muslim country) and let them stay? Men who have grown up with the Taliban regime are in my view potentially very dangerous - as this man has proved with sexual offences and now this terrible attack.

That was a freudian slip!
Male asylum seekers will obviously be a higher risk than female asylum seekers to sort of answer your question caknib.

I agree with you Iam.

Men

Great Britain never meant that Britain was a great country. It meant, and still means that the countries of England, Scotland, and Wales together make Great Britain. In other words, large Britain comprising three smaller countries. With Northern Ireland included, it becomes the United Kingdom.

If an application is refused, the individual can appeal to a tribunal. They’re led by specialist Immigration Judges. They can and do, ask questions to elicit whether the conversion to Christianity is genuine. As a result, some applicants are turned down.

All this outrage about “do gooders’ is understandably fuelled by this terrible crime and others committed by asylum seekers/people with asylum status. It takes us absolutely no where. Our criminal justice system is falling apart. The prisons over flowing, many offenders especially in women’s prisons should be sentenced to community sentences. Sex offenders imo get away far too lightly, the research is there that confirms the ongoing risks they pose. Violence against women and children is right down the list. White collar ‘crime’ like that the Post Office staff were wrongly convicted of given higher profile. Ludicrous

Each day I hear about such violence happening in this country . Its actually making me feel unwell and deeply fearful for our grandchildren . Broken britain, no longer Great Britain , just england. What on earth do we do

I'd be interested to know who exactly decides on who can have asylum and who can't. Is it a team of solicitors or a civil service computer algorithm?

Just for the record,I most certainly did express sympathy for the victims. It is a hideous and unthinkable crime.

People of all backgrounds sadly,commit crime which are repulsive.

This perpetrator apparently is an Afghan,a manipulator and criminal. The HO is clearly not fit for purpose and he should never have been allowed to apply for asylum.
What about other male Afghans who seek asylum? Are they all equally dangerous? The people who acted as translators for example?

Show some backbone and vote for the Reform Party.

Those who think the Tories are best placed to sort this out should take a reality check.

Do you really think that Labour will sort it out? If you do, you’re in for a very big disappointment. Although immigration has been increasing over many years, it was the Blair government who opened the floodgates. And we’ve never looked back. Immigration, both legal and illegal, has simply increased and increased, year on year, whoever is in government, and since the last Labour government deliberately opened up access into Britain, the next Labour government is unlikely to act any differently. Meanwhile we are unable to access health care as needed, there are insufficient school places, young adults can’t afford to buy a house, or even rent one in many cases, the roads are overcrowded, we apparently have insufficient water in the summer, and although some people would like to deny it, a significant number of immigrants have committed crimes, many of which are serious. We don’t deport anyone, regardless of their crimes. It takes years to hear asylum cases, and we spend millions of pounds a day on accommodating people in hotels. You actually couldn’t make it up!
Vote Labour or indeed LD if you wish, or vote Conservative if you wish, it won’t make a jot of difference.

If any good comes out of this, it will be the do-gooders waking up to what fools they have been. Patting themselves on the back for showing compassion to 'refugees' while allowing their own country to be used as a dump for low-lifes.

Those blaming lawyers and priests should question how the system in this country allows such manipulation. The Tories with their hatred of the nanny state have allowed lax regulations to become even laxer. France rejects 80% of asylum applications - we allow over 80% France processes applications in 6-9 months - applications take years here. ID cards and ID technology make working under the radar much more difficult - but no that’s too much state interference - well you can’t have it both ways, you can either spend all your time and money on chasing non existent sovereignty and freedoms or seriously tighten up security and checks. This is an international problem so you have to work with neighbouring countries not isolate yourself from them. Those who think the Tories are best placed to sort this out should take reality check.

This man being an Afghan makes me wonder if he has leanings towards the Taliban regime and the mysoginistic culture that thrives in that country. The Taliban has no regard for women and the horror stories that emerge from Afghanistan strongly suggest that violence towards women is roundly encouraged.
One wonders if this vile man subscribes to the Taliban "philosophy"?