Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

All I want is an efficient home office that when considering asylum applications actually take into consideration any crimes (whatever level) that the individual has committed whilst waiting for their claim to processed.

In my opinion if you want to make a new life in a new country you obey their laws and regulations along with not pushing your own religion and customs.

I agree with you Elegran there's always been a suspicion of "incomers" until they get to know you.
In my small town in Scotland there was an influx of Irish labour to work in the coal mines in the early 20th century. An elderly neighbour told me how as children it was fascinating to watch their different practices such as holding their babies in shawls and not having prams.

I'm an incomer so even though I ve lived here 40+ years, I'll always be.

My DGS, born in NZ but speaks with a British accent like his parents and is rudely call a Colonist by the mean kids.

I'm fed up with people convincing Parole Boards, some of whom are often vicars, that they are reformed then coming out and re-offending.

I reckon 'send these scum to Rwanda' is taking a side.

I was agreeing with you, Callistemon not accusing you of "doing that"!

Cossy

I worked with many Muslims, both mails and female, and some Christian’s. All worked well together, we’re decent, honest people who accept British law and abide by it.

Do be fooled and think all Christians are peace loving and accepting people. Some are, some are not!

People of all faiths/colour/creed/nationality have the capacity to be good and bad!

Oh dear.

There are some daft posts on this thread.

Understandably, posters are upset at what has happened but why are some posters thinking others are taking sides?

Elegran

Callistemon21

Invasion, occupation, managed migration, welcoming refugees from persecution here has happened over centuries. People have worked hard, settled, integrated.

However, entering a country illegally then committing crimes is quite a different scenario.

Yes, crime is crime wherever the criminal was born. But regarding all immigrants as real or potential criminals is not the same as abhorring the crime which a specific immigrant has committed.

I didnt do that.

Germanshepherdsmum

So???

So . . . people are saying that there was no multiculturality (is that a word?) here until recently. They are wrong, there have always been people from different cultures. Does there have to be a confrontational "So . . .?" ?

Sorry males, not mails!

I worked with many Muslims, both mails and female, and some Christian’s. All worked well together, we’re decent, honest people who accept British law and abide by it.

Do be fooled and think all Christians are peace loving and accepting people. Some are, some are not!

People of all faiths/colour/creed/nationality have the capacity to be good and bad!

Callistemon21

Invasion, occupation, managed migration, welcoming refugees from persecution here has happened over centuries. People have worked hard, settled, integrated.

However, entering a country illegally then committing crimes is quite a different scenario.

Yes, crime is crime wherever the criminal was born. But regarding all immigrants as real or potential criminals is not the same as abhorring the crime which a specific immigrant has committed.

I posted too soon, my posts wasn't finished. My point was that most of these waves of immigration were not welcomed when they first arrived, but now you can't tell their descendants apart at a glance. They still have some of their old traditions, and their food preferences, and they left their mark on the speech and placenames in the areas where colonies settled.

Britain is FULL of multiculturism, but you only notice it when you are with several descendants of a group other than those in your home town, a group which migrated in generations ago and have now been assimilated - but without losing all their individualities.

Elegran

If they cross the water in small boats, or arrive in lorries, then apply for asylum, which is now actually prohibited by new British law, they are coming here via illegal means, they themselves are not “illegals” Perhaps if our govt hadn’t made it so hard to enter via legal means it would be a different story.

There were certainly black people in this country before 1950! I went to secondary school in 1970, I had black and Asian people in my school!

Still, nothing changes does it, my proud Irish husband came to live in London as a migrant when he was 5, in 1960. He recalls boarding houses with notices on them stating “No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs”! He was lucky, he’s white and quickly adopted a London accent! I too have mixed heritage, but again I’m white with a nice “middle England queens English” accent!

So much xenophobia, racism and prejudice shown by some on this site.

This man committed a heinous crime, he is an evil man, For me his nationality/race/religion is irrelevant except that it would have been some other poor family being targeted in whichever country he resided in! I agree with many, he should be locked away for the rest of his life.

I am shocked at The comment by Maisie almost feeling sorry for this awful man. Some of you do not accept that some asylum seekers are evil criminals. Not all men beat their wives nor treat women as second class citizens or take second wives while married. I freely admit that I fear Islam becoming the dominant religion in The UK. If you come to our country you need to accept our way of life and our national values built on hristisn principles. Multiculturism has NOT worked and there is no point in arguing how to achieve it. Some of you who oppose what GSM wrote need to wake up to what’s happening in our big cities. Who can excuse this dreadful act. This evil inhumane took a small child and smashed her head on the pavement twice and then poured acid on the woman and child as well as people who came near. If decent Muslims do not speak up against such evil people then what will become of our country. If you read the Press you will know that similar fears are being felt in France, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands and Italy. And if nothing stops this constant influx you will get different styles of government you will not like. I am an ardent feminist because I remember the unfairness women suffered in marriage at work and socially. Suzanne Moore mentioned how some so called Feminist have kowtowed to a religious faith treating women like unequals. I am sorry but I am so angry and fearful for my grandchildren’s future.

Invasion, occupation, managed migration, welcoming refugees from persecution here has happened over centuries. People have worked hard, settled, integrated.

However, entering a country illegally then committing crimes is quite a different scenario.

So some people seeking asylum are good,some are bad? Maybe?

So???

Irish migration to Great Britain has occurred since the early medieval period. The largest waves occurred in the 19th century. Thousands of Irish immigrants settled down in Britain, primarily in the port cities of Liverpool and Glasgow.

A wave of Jews arrived in the early 20th Century when pogroms were going on in Russia and elswwhere.

Many Poles came to Scotland from 1939, when Germany and Russia invaded Poland.

After the war, relations improved. Britain needed workers, and in 1945 an agreement was reached between the British Ministry of Labour and the Italian Government, allowing Italian migrants with permits to come to Britain through various schemes. The standard of living for most Italians in southern Italy was very low. By 1949, 8,500 Italian migrants were entering Britain each year with numbers peaking between 1955-1957 and 1960-1962. Over half of these Italians settled in the south east.

In the 16th and 17th Centuries Huguenots and other Protestants left France for England when they were being persecuted as heretics by Catholics, (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zpk9frd/revision/3 - interesting how some arrived at an inopportune time, and not all of them were welcome)

The northern, central, and eastern region of Anglo-Saxon England were so thoroughly colonized by invading Danish armies in the late 9th century, and in the 11th and 12th centuries, it was recognized that all of eastern England between the Rivers Tees and Thames formed a region in which a distinctive form of customary law (Danelaw) prevailed in the local courts, differing from West Saxon law to the south and Mercian law to the west.

I understand very well and note the use of the word 'some '.

caknib

Who are 'these people'

Please don't waste your energy calling me a leftie or woke or suchlike.Or suggesting the crime wasn't utterly abhorrent.

'These people' are just that. People.

I cannot comprehend the level of hatred.

Why can you not understand that some ‘people’ are actually men who think they have the right to subjugate, maim and kill women?

Most, if not all port cities were multicultural long before Windrush. Liverpool, for instance, had a Chinese quarter, many black people.and other assorted races.

If deported he would not of done this and a mother and child would not be suffering now.

Cossy the windrush is only from the 50s. The ship wanted to fill empty cabins. Have a look at old photos of cities. Absolutely no multiculturalism. My school in a big city was 100% white

Desdemona

I hope other crazed individuals on seeing that oven cleaner inflicts this type of damage don't go out and buy some!

I know I am probably over reacting, but this product is available everywhere!

So are many other products that will cause nasty damage if thrown in people's faces, put into their food or drink, or used to stab or bludgeon them. Most people's kitchens (and certainly all commercial ones) contain sharp knives and equipment and floor cleaner. Builders have cement powder (I accidentally splashed my face with cement while helping with some DIY - a few days later I had some tiny ulcers on my cornea) If someone really wants to own something that will harm others, they just need to read the warnings on the packaging in the stores.

Cossy If they have come here and applied for asylum, they are not illegal. That is the legal way to try to be accepted.

Illegal immigrants, on the other hand, have entered the country surreptitiously without applying for asylum, so the authorities have no idea who they are, or where they are, so they are not allowing them to stay - they are completely unaware that they are here and WANT to stay.

The same applies to illegals getting benefits, health care, government handouts or anything else. They can't apply for these things wihout revealing their presence, so they keep their heads down.