Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

Interesting! I wonder if there’ll be any action/changes.

Just spotted this on the DM but it is not appearing on BBC website at the moment.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13064665/Government-launches-investigation-migrants-Christian-conversions-40-men-Bibby-Stockholm-baptised.html

Risks, caknib, not actuality.

www.civilserviceworld.com/news/article/independent-inspector-warns-over-border-force-corruption-risks

It’s entirely plausible.

Thanks Chapeau, yes, I wondered too.

Callistemon21 Sorry I missed your comment. (I came late to the thread and had to skim read all 16 pages). The reason I raised the possibility of monster already being a criminal in Afghanistan is due to the legal system out there. If he had been charged with an offence, unless it was murder he would've been on remand because there was literally no room in the prison for him. Although things were looking up in the country at the time, corruption was still rife. If he had been imprisoned, it would not have been hard to buy himself out either.
Anyway, time will tell. Aside from the sheer horror I felt about his actions, I found myself wondering why he fled Afghanistan in the first place.

Supporting them is one thing, abusing Christianity by baptising an adult whose conversion is highly dubious is another. Why hasn’t Justin Welby told his clergy to be careful not to be involved in this abuse?

The Anglican Church have loudly supported immigrants

It appears to be the Baptist Church which is co ordinating it.

Anniebach

It has been reported on a news channel, 40 living on that barge
have become Christian

Praise the Lord! Another miracle. Finding God or being gay is a dead cert for being allowed to stay. When will we ever learn?

10:28Anniebach

It has been reported on a news channel, 40 living on that barge
have become Christian

Justin Welby will be pleased 🙁

I wonder how many British born Muslims are converting to Christianity? I also wonder how many of these new converts will continue to attend church on a regular basis once their asylum is approved?

Anniebach

It has been reported on a news channel, 40 living on that barge
have become Christian

My word!!

And we thought Christianity and church attendance was on the decline in this country.
The clergy must be thrilled to have so many enthusiastic new converts.

It has been reported on a news channel, 40 living on that barge
have become Christian

Meanwhile the assailant in this case, was given a home to live in Newcastle, a city I read that has quite a few homeless ex servicemen living on the streets

And then posters criticise people who get upset.

Edez left Afghanistan in 2016 when NATO service personnel, including British, were there as part of the NATO Resolute Support Mission.

Why did he leave and arrive in the UK in the back of a lorry? 🤔

It is indeed a whole industry, a despicable one.

I do accept that Christians in many Muslim countries are a persecuted minority, I remember reading such articles by Michael Nazir Ali, former Bishop of Rochester on that very subject.

Call me naive, but I'm forever pondering on the fact that if a would -be asylum seeker is fleeing an appalling regime, then why? oh why? if such a person were serious in wanting to ingratiate themselves to their host country, would they commit a crime/s. I can only conclude that they weren't so cowed, so desperate by what they left behind, because surely if they were, that would be impetus enough to obey the law once they get here. Or do they regard western society as such a soft touch, they can act as they wish, with no respect for the rule of law? I imagine such people actually aren't that desperate and also seem to perceive us as a ridiculously soft touch, it's almost as if they are having a laugh at our expense. If someone can sexually abuse a vulnerable person and still be allowed to stay here, that gives out a message, "I can pretty much do what I like in this country, there is no ultimate price to pay"

I remember Angela Merkel on finding out that some of those Germany had given safe haven to had either committed sexual assaults, or were involved in potential acts of terrorism, saying something along the lines of "it's such a betrayal of trust" I think in many ways she acted with the best of intentions, and of course it's fair to say that the majority of those who seek a place of safety are absolutely genuine, but of course it can't be known, who is who with such a tidal wave of movement, it would be impossible to screen everyone. Into that mix will inevitably be those who seek to dupe or play the system. And what of those who fight tooth and nail to stop deportations of rapists etc. a positive industry of human rights lawyers fighting such cases. How would they feel if they were the victim, or their daughter, mother, wife? would they still be willing to have that person walk among us? Human rights should surely include victims' rights, it all seems so very one sided to me. We know one of the ringleaders in the Rochdale sexual abuse of children scandal is still here and he was supposed to have been deported to Pakistan on coming out of jail. We appear to have a whole battalion of legal aid lawyers fighting tooth and nail to keep criminals here, I know we haven't got anywhere to send them, both crazy and depressing. .

Meanwhile the assailant in this case, was given a home to live in Newcastle, a city I read that has quite a few homeless ex servicemen living on the streets.

I once taught a little girl whose parents, and she and her sister, had come to England from India. They were genuinely Catholic and as soon as a place was available they moved her from the school I taught in, to the Catholic primary up the road. They probably asked for asylum, I never actually asked them, but they were a lovely family and they told me Christians were persecuted in India, which I knew already.
But this family from India were already committed Christians, all baptised, when they arrived. It’s very different to someone who arrives here as one faith and decides it might be useful to join another faith in order to make their asylum application more likely to be accepted.

I see from the link GG supplied that those wishing to be baptised have to give a ‘public testimony’, which they do in their native language and it is then translated into English. If their English is so poor how can they participate in the Church services they attend? Given that conversion to Christianity is, I have read, a sin under Islam, I would suggest that their fellow asylum seekers who are Muslims know perfectly well that they are not converting at all, simply using Christianity as a means to an end - otherwise they would surely be attacked.

Goodness!
I don’t believe so many people can possibly be genuinely converting to Christianity.

Chestnut

The DM is reporting that 40 migrants on the Bibby Stockholm are attending church services:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13044697/For-one-bibby-stockholm-refugees-converting-christianity-fears-growing-loophole-clapham-attack-asylum-claim-church.html

One of the Chirch elders has told the BBC the same, it’s not just the DM reporting this.

I had thought of asking a FOI question about the numbers who have been granted asylum on the grounds that they have converted to Christianity but decided the HO would fob me off, so am going to email my MP (Conservative) with a view to this mockery of Christianity being stopped. If anything good can come out of this terrible attack, maybe it will be the ending of the mandatory grant of asylum if the applicant/appellant claims to have converted to Christianity and cannot be returned to a Muslim country.

The DM is reporting that 40 migrants on the Bibby Stockholm are attending church services:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13044697/For-one-bibby-stockholm-refugees-converting-christianity-fears-growing-loophole-clapham-attack-asylum-claim-church.html