Azar Ali

Anniebach

Quote Urmstongran Tue 13-Feb-24 20:06:48
And it goes to demonstrate what a load of whitewash Chakrabarti‘s report was.

She went straight to the Lords

I’m sure you’d the first to own Urmstongran that all parties have rogue elements regardless of how rigorously attempts to reform are made. Those elements emerging unexpectedly is a political reality all parties face. What is important is tackling them when they do emerge.

Why would anybody shudder at the thought ot living in Bradford? Especially if their opinion had been formed from watching a TV programme?

Quote Urmstongran Tue 13-Feb-24 20:06:48
And it goes to demonstrate what a load of whitewash Chakrabarti‘s report was.

She went straight to the Lords

growstuff

Grantanow

caknib

Pity the safe space was stolen from other people though?

It wasn't. After WW2 the UN partitioned Palestine between the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs. The State of Israel was then immediately attacked by three Arab states and acquired more territory by right of conquest in the brief war which Israel won despite the odds.

So who lived in Palestine before some of it was handed over to Israel?

The Canaanites?

HousePlantQueen

Anniebach

Hamas would have won a massive victory can only mean the majority believe in all they do

On what basis are you and others claiming that Hamas have the support of the majority of the Palestinian people? None. Do you think therefore that all of Russia supports Putin?

Well, Glorianny assures us that would be the caee!

Consider why there haven't been elections. The main reason seems to be that Hamas would have won a massive victory and this was unacceptable to many, including the Palestinian president, other countries and Israel

Grantanow

caknib

Pity the safe space was stolen from other people though?

It wasn't. After WW2 the UN partitioned Palestine between the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs. The State of Israel was then immediately attacked by three Arab states and acquired more territory by right of conquest in the brief war which Israel won despite the odds.

So who lived in Palestine before some of it was handed over to Israel?

Glorianny

Urmstongran

An iron grip on the Gaza population:

The last elections for the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) were held on 25 January 2006. There have not been any elections either for president or for the legislature since these two elections.

Consider why there haven't been elections. The main reason seems to be that Hamas would have won a massive victory and this was unacceptable to many, including the Palestinian president, other countries and Israel. I wonder is it OK to disenfranchise people because you don't like their choices?

The reason is the differences between Fatah and Hamas which has resulted in delayed elections since the last one in 2006.

And it goes to demonstrate what a load of whitewash Chakrabarti‘s report was.

The late Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, once said that “anti-Semites are never just anti-Semites. It is not as if those who dislike Jews are overflowing with love for the rest of humanity“

Galaxy

It's not isolated. The Mail obviously have a lot of information that they are slowly going to release.

As have HuffPost and others I have no doubt. Still, if it roots out sleazy and bigoted candidates from all the parties before the actual election surely that’s a good thing for British politics. There have been so many scandals in the last few years that it’s embarrassing, no matter what your political persuasion.

Quote Glorianny Tue 13-Feb-24 16:56:16
Urmstongran
An iron grip on the Gaza population:

The last elections for the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) were held on 25 January 2006. There have not been any elections either for president or for the legislature since these two elections.
Consider why there haven't been elections. The main reason seems to be that Hamas would have won a massive victory and this was unacceptable to many, including the Palestinian president, other countries and Israel. I wonder is it OK to disenfranchise people because you don't like their choices?

Grantanow I was replying to above

It's not isolated. The Mail obviously have a lot of information that they are slowly going to release.

Anniebach

Hamas would have won a massive victory can only mean the majority believe in all they do

On what basis are you and others claiming that Hamas have the support of the majority of the Palestinian people? None. Do you think therefore that all of Russia supports Putin?

Surely "partitioned between" is the same as gave half away?

It’s going to be a dirty election

GrannyGravy13

Another one bites the dust

That was clearly some meeting.

The one and only positive is that this happened in an isolated by election with a general election not too far away, because it should give Starmer and team time to rectify the vetting process failures which have allowed a candidate who is clearly unsuitable to be selected. I feel very sorry for the electorate of Rochdale in the interim.

Another one bites the dust

Anniebach

Hamas would have won a massive victory can only mean the majority believe in all they do

Which HAMAS 'victory' was that?

KS really had no option if he wants to maintain the claims that Labour has changed.
The problem is that though his action supports that claim, the actions of some party members and even would-be MP’s don’t reflect that claim.

GrannyGravy13

I am amazed that nobody is bothered by Hamas Head Honchos repeatedly stating that they will repeat their actions of 7/10/23 until every Jew is wiped off of the planet.

So am I and I am amazed that an experienced Labour member like Mr Ali could ignore that fact when speaking of the situation.

caknib

Pity the safe space was stolen from other people though?

It wasn't. After WW2 the UN partitioned Palestine between the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs. The State of Israel was then immediately attacked by three Arab states and acquired more territory by right of conquest in the brief war which Israel won despite the odds.

It's ironic that Labour is guaranteed to lose the Rochdale election despite having three former Labour members standing.

Go on then! What's your guess?

Where are you getting your information from Candelle? It sounds as though you're better informed then the IDF.

Incidentally, nobody in WW2 flattened whole countries.