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Azar Ali

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Mollygo Mon 12-Feb-24 18:27:24

Should he be allowed to stand for the LP in the Rochdale by-election after his remarks? Apologising doesn’t mean he doesn’t think exactly what he said.

Dickens Thu 15-Feb-24 00:34:35

Anniebach

Dickens yes children are being killed, I really don’t understand why their parents are never spoken of, where does these deaths leave children in poverty?

How can you say that "their parents are never spoken of"?

We - and the rest of the world that is watching the events unfold keep talking about the men, women and children - civilians - who are being killed... and those who were slaughtered on 7th October by Hamas - not to mention the hostages who are still being held.

You seem to be saying that because people are shocked at the number of children killed and injured that it must mean we don't care about the adults?

growstuff Wed 14-Feb-24 23:58:50

But the deaths of adults are reported too.

growstuff Wed 14-Feb-24 23:49:11

PS. I meant Ellman in my previous post. I've been having a "bad name" day. blush

growstuff Wed 14-Feb-24 23:48:13

Callistemon21

growstuff

Ironically, Louise Ellwood partly supported Khan, saying that he had always supported her when she received anti-semitic abuse.

Sorry, I meant Ali.

🤔 I'm not sure I followed any of this.

Did a Rochdale Councillor come out in support of an MP's wife when she received anti-Semitic abuse? Do they know each other?

Do you have a link, please.

These were Louise Ellman's own tweets. Admittedly, they were before the "additional" information was reported.

For those who don't know, Ellman is Jewish and a Labour peer. She left the Labour Party when Corbyn was leader.

maddyone Wed 14-Feb-24 23:44:50

I’ve just seen that too Annie.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 23:14:20

Listening to review of tomorrow’s papers, antisemitism in this country is rising to frightening heights.

cakmib Wed 14-Feb-24 23:07:17

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Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 23:05:02

Reported.

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Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 22:34:40

Dickens yes children are being killed, I really don’t understand why their parents are never spoken of, where does these deaths leave children in poverty?

Dickens Wed 14-Feb-24 22:29:34

Anniebach

Why oh why must the children card be played ? Hamas are certainly playing it.

It's not a card being played, Anniebach, it's despair... that humanity can slaughter its children who, regardless, of the war or its cause, are entirely innocent, who don't know why they're being butchered by Hamas, or bombed and shot at by Israel. They have no say, no voice, they rely on adults to protect them... and it's just heart breaking. Do you know why it's so grievous, so bad? Because there is absolutely nothing that children can do about what is happening and what has happened to them, they are completely and utterly defenceless.

To suggest that being upset about children - both Israeli and Palestinian - being maimed and killed is playing a 'card' is below the belt.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 22:27:22

I am not bored, I do not have a grudge Cakmib

Casllistemon it’s baffling how they are allowed to line the road ,

Mollygo Wed 14-Feb-24 22:23:42

Callistemon21

Anniebach
Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still
I'm am surprised the police are doing nothing.

Do they not remember Ian Gow, Jo Cox, Sir David Amess and others?
It seems not.

cakmib Wed 14-Feb-24 22:22:09

No personal attack. Sad state of affairs for all.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 22:16:00

Anniebach

Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still

I'm am surprised the police are doing nothing.

Do they not remember Ian Gow, Jo Cox, Sir David Amess and others?

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 22:09:46

petra 😲

That does not surprise me. The young men they use are just cannon fodder.

petra Wed 14-Feb-24 21:58:43

Callistemon21

However, the educated, sophisticated, very, very wealthy men are not the ones who put their own lives in danger. They rely on the youths to do that, of course.

Just a reminder of how their beloved leaders live.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 21:18:33

Personal attacks yet again

caknib Wed 14-Feb-24 21:15:13

foxie,you are wasting your time. Sadly this has become some sort of focus for various grudges,losses and boredom to play out.

Desperately sad but not as sad as writing your name on your family's legs so their bodies can be identified.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 21:00:13

Iam I am genuinely shocked that many disregard lives of
women and men

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:58:36

Women, children and men’s lives matter, unless you believe every man is a terrorist

Iam64 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:58:15

I’m genuinely shocked that referring to the death of children can be called “playing the children card”

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:54:04

Anniebach

Yes children are dying, surely all lives matter

Of course "all lives matter" I don't understand your point.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:50:32

Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:50:23

Anniebach

I don’t see it as revenge, it’s ongoing defence against terrorism,

So how does killing children and women defend the world against terrorism? Hamas doesn't care how many children, women, innocent Palestinians die. Why would they? I honestly don't understand your logic. Please explain.