Azar Ali

Galaxy, I get the Spartacus feeling too if it means being concerned about swastikas and knowing men can’t be women.

Galaxy

To be fair I have been called far right for having concerns about swatiskas and for saying men cant be women so the phrase has become fairly meaningless to me.

To be fair I have been called far right for having concerns about swatiskas

That really takes the biscuit 😂

Galaxy - I too am Spartacus

Or swastikas even.

To be fair I have been called far right for having concerns about swatiskas and for saying men cant be women so the phrase has become fairly meaningless to me.

Galaxy I didn’t say you were far right but if you want to own it? My comment was about a lot of the comments on CAA’s X account and asked whether posters agreed as they otherwise appear to be in support of CAA

I am certainly not holding my breath on Netanyahu leaving office Katie59, like Trump his only way to stay out of jail is to stay in office.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for Netanyahu to go, the Israeli government mean to drive Hamas out of Gaza, if they were going to back down they would have done it long ago.

The reports I read were that yesterday's march was reported as peaceful by the Police. There were many obviously Jewish people on the march (banners etc), and very few arrests so how (why?) do some of you still insist that being appalled by the actions of Netanyahu, appalled by the 30000 deaths, somehow makes one an apologist for or supporter of, Hamas? Netanyahu is not universally supported by Israeli citizens, by calling for his removal they are not anti-semitic, nor supporters of Hamas, and the same applies to me

There are marches in Tel Aviv calling on Netanyahu to resign. Israel needs a change of government if there is to be any chance of peace

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68331272

That's right bmacca. We are all far right. Well done. Excellent analysis.

Mollygo

G said
People have been marching for Palestine for a long time.
I asked

So where were the Palestinian marchers on October 7th I wonder? Or was their silence in support of the actions of Hamas which started the current conflict?

Do you have any concept of the organisation necessary to organise a march? This is one of the most stupid questions I've seen on GN. I could ask have you ever marched? And if you haven't does that show you endorse the mass slaughter Israel are currently imposing on the people of Gaza?

G said
People have been marching for Palestine for a long time.
I asked

So where were the Palestinian marchers on October 7th I wonder? Or was their silence in support of the actions of Hamas which started the current conflict?

Turn it around? Do you agree with all the antisemitic responses on SM, vile racist anti Jew stuff?
Even the Labour Party has just had to stand down a Muslim candidate.There will be much that isn’t reported either.
Starmer has had his work cut out getting rid of antsemites but many still lurk there.

So you don’t think Jews who disagree with the Israeli government’s actions have any right to get upset?? Wow. With both antisemitism and Islamophobia rising together, especially on social media, it is clearly a time to encourage dialogue instead of escalating divisions.

It is very disturbing to see organisations, especially those that receive charitable funds, pulling determinedly in the opposite direction. Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) have been working overtime to ratchet up fear/paranoia among Jews, labelling any criticism of Israeli policy/actions as antisemitic and blood libel.

CAA seems to thrive on exacerbating division. Check their Twitter feed and look at the responses they attract in support of their posts: full of vile, racist, Islamophobic, and far right rhetoric. Is that what you agree with?

People have been marching for Palestine for a long time. They have tried to get successive governments to act and support the refugees, end the Israeli blockade and create the two state solution which the UN resolution demanded.
Trying to blame those people by claiming they support the actions of Hamas on October 7th is simply untenable.

So where were the Palestinian marchers on October 7th I wonder? Or was their silence in support of the actions of Hamas which started the current conflict?

The marchers were insulted, oh dear how unkind

I think the rise in antisemitism so widely reported has meant that schools, synagogues etc need police protection. So sorry if the marchers feelings were hurt.

From a Jewish friend on yesterday’s march:

The CAA have been pressing the police to act on the Palestine demos in London. The police forced the march yesterday to delay their start so it wouldn’t march past a point close to a synagogue as worshippers left the service. The inference was that marchers would want to attack the worshippers. An incredible insult.
If marchers wanted to attack Jews they would have once again found hundreds of Jews displaying their identity on banners and placards on the march itself.

The march was heading towards the Israeli Embassy because the march was opposing the daily slaughter of Palestinians that is being carried out as Israeli Government policy. Jews, Palestinians, Muslims, Christians, humanists were united in that. Within the Jewish bloc there were Israelis with placards in Hebrew “day lekibush” - end the occupation.

Mollygo

Oh I see. Thank you for your explanation.
Were they marching in support of the Hamas branch of Palestinians I wonder?

They were marching because they think nearly 30,000 dead is too many ( I just realised that is the same number as the marchers!). They were chanting for a cease fire and for the people of Gaza. The stateless, landless Palestinian people driven into Rafah where they are now being bombed
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/15/rafah-gaza-israel-airstrikes-war

Oh I see. Thank you for your explanation.
Were they marching in support of the Hamas branch of Palestinians I wonder?

maddyone

Why was there even one arrest?
Peaceful protest should ensure that no one is arrested!

Well a couple were people who refused to remove face coverings (I really don't know why)
Crowds tend to be open to all sorts of people. Over 2000 people were arrested at football matches last year. Watching a game no one should be arrested.

Why was there even one arrest?
Peaceful protest should ensure that no one is arrested!

Mollygo

Iam64

So, your conclusion is that anti semitism was created by Christianity. Your determination to deny or minimise anti semitism in the Muslim community isn’t constructive and does not reflect what’s happening right now

It certainly doesn’t reflect what’s happening now, but it suits some to ignore that.

Glorianny, Anniebach asked
why march in London Jewish communities?
Do you have an explanation for that?

So what really happened is that traffic police diverted what was described as a "pro-Palestinian convoy"from accessing areas of Neasden in North London. If you have ever been on a protest march in London you will know that participants tend to meet up at different places en route. They then often park somewhere in North London and use the tube to reach the start of the march. There was no march through Jewish areas planned or executed.
The marchers were asked not to pass a synagogue until the worshippers had left and they did so.

30,000 marchers and only 11 arrests.
www.google.com/search?sca_esv=53fc82b34e85f072&sxsrf=ACQVn09ZdxMjcuzIB_lye2YihmeX4p6ZCg:1708257748920&q=17th+Feb+march+through+london&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2oLyC7LSEAxXgTEEAHS4aAYMQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=1152&bih=623&dpr=1.25#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:afcd0702,vidqVu0M_XLCM,st:0