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Nigel Farage suggests Prince William ‘sticks to the BAFTAs’

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Urmstongran Tue 20-Feb-24 18:38:07

What do you think?

In my opinion William needs to understand what accepting the privilege of Royalty means.
You can have private opinions but keep them to yourself.

This is NOT the job of the Monarchy to get involved.

Galaxy Tue 20-Feb-24 22:02:37

Well no it's not really true that everyones opinion should be treated with equal value. My opinion on volcanoes is of less value than someone who has made studying volcanoes their life work.
I am entitled to my view on volcanoes but people would benefit much more from listening to the other fellow

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 20-Feb-24 21:58:21

He’s not terribly rich then, and certainly not ‘posh’.

Glorianny Tue 20-Feb-24 21:55:25

Namsnanny

MayBee70

Glorianny

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Just remind me how rich Farage (man of-the people…bit like Trump really) is…

Just asking MayBee70 .... how much money does it take to class someone as rich?
I'm wondering where I fit on the listgringringringrin

You've got a long way to go. Farage got £1.5 million for I'm a Celebrity.He's worth about£3.5million
There's some question about how much he made in the City before he went into politics.

M0nica Tue 20-Feb-24 21:55:25

Everybodies opinion should be treated as of equal value.

All this stupid stuff about posh blokes. There have been hierarchies since time begun and who ever was on top told the others what to do. In various cultures at various times it has been different people whose power was based on lots ofdifferent factors, parents over children , patriarchs over the whole family, matriarchs as well, teachers, employers over staff.

These easy peasy, get a quick laugh or feel all nice about your virtual signalling, is just a sign of lazy thinking. Give eberyone their due and treat them with respect.

Namsnanny Tue 20-Feb-24 21:37:02

MayBee70

Glorianny

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Just remind me how rich Farage (man of-the people…bit like Trump really) is…

Just asking MayBee70 .... how much money does it take to class someone as rich?
I'm wondering where I fit on the listgringringringrin

valdavi Tue 20-Feb-24 21:21:07

Farzanah

So what has William said?

‘End to the fighting as soon as possible”
“Terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack.
“Desperate need for humanitarian support to Gaza” and for hostages to be released.

Good for him I say and many in U.K. would second it. It’s not different to the government’ revised stance is it?

Exactly that. Is it whether the human cost is terrible that's controversial? Or the idea of humanitarian support for a disaster zone? Or the hostage release?

Casdon Tue 20-Feb-24 21:15:22

Namsnanny

Casdon

He’s a gifted blamer of others Namsnanny, I’ll give him that much.

That's interesting, where is the money made from blaming others even being gifted at it, I don't see the ruse?

It means he stays in the spotlight he craves.

Namsnanny Tue 20-Feb-24 21:11:43

Casdon

He’s a gifted blamer of others Namsnanny, I’ll give him that much.

That's interesting, where is the money made from blaming others even being gifted at it, I don't see the ruse?

MissAdventure Tue 20-Feb-24 21:11:16

It would have been a carefully thought out and worded script, I'm sure.

It's hardly likely that William blurted it out without it having been properly considered.

MayBee70 Tue 20-Feb-24 21:09:09

Glorianny

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Just remind me how rich Farage (man of-the people…bit like Trump really) is…

Deedaa Tue 20-Feb-24 21:03:34

I think there are plenty of people who would be ready to accuse William of living comfortably and not caring about anything else if he didn't say something.

Casdon Tue 20-Feb-24 21:03:24

He’s a gifted blamer of others Namsnanny, I’ll give him that much.

Namsnanny Tue 20-Feb-24 20:56:49

Anniebach

Schoolboy error at age 41? he said nothing political

I was thinking about the RF safety tbh Anniebach.

He referred to the Hamas terrorist attack.
The UN have still stuck to their guns in referring to Hamas as a political force not a terrorist group, have they not? I think this is still the case?

Could the phrase terrorist attack, be a trigger for some people, leading to some kind of retribution?

Casadon ... I doubt NF will take your advice to 'stay on the periphery where he belongs' I think that's just your wishful thinking, grin
It may make you feel like vomiting wink but I have heard prominent people from both the left and the right say he is the most influential man in UK politics today. 'More consequential than any PM of recent times,' is another quote.

Glorianny Tue 20-Feb-24 20:55:48

M0nica

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

But posh blokes have been telling us all what to do and what to think for centuries why on earth should I have to listen to them now?
They have no more expertise on the subject than the ordinary person. They only have press coverage because of who they are.
The other groups you name are minorities and it would be good to hear more from them. But it's posh blokes who get the press coverage.

Dickens Tue 20-Feb-24 20:40:57

Glorianny

Casdon

I suggest Farage sticks to the periphery where he belongs. This won’t change the positive way in which William is viewed by the electorate one iota, in fact it will probably enhance his standing. Sorry Glorianny, but there it is. Your anti-hero triumphs.

Urmstongran would disagree I think.

Personally for me anything two posh blokes think or say has never meant much.

William might be a "posh bloke" but I believe he's at heart a decent posh bloke.

I don't doubt his commitment to environmental matters, like his father.

Being privileged does not automatically render you heartless or uncaring, anymore than being impoverished makes you a good person.

M0nica Tue 20-Feb-24 20:37:43

How damning - of you Glorianny prepared to decide that anyone with money or an upper class upbringing by definition has nothing to say that could affect anyone else.

How would you feel if someone made some comment about women over 50 not being worth listening to, or university students as a bunch have nothing useful to say? or possibly all the Rohinga people or the Uighirs.

It is the same mindless naming of a group, depersonalising them and then condemming them that lies behind most of the conflicts in the world.

Glorianny Tue 20-Feb-24 20:30:07

Casdon

I suggest Farage sticks to the periphery where he belongs. This won’t change the positive way in which William is viewed by the electorate one iota, in fact it will probably enhance his standing. Sorry Glorianny, but there it is. Your anti-hero triumphs.

Urmstongran would disagree I think.

Personally for me anything two posh blokes think or say has never meant much.

Dickens Tue 20-Feb-24 20:29:54

Well it's not as if he just made the statement 'out of the blue' - he was visiting British Red Cross aid workers involved in the humanitarian effort in Gaza.

And, it was carefully worded, also in accord with the view of the British government.

As for the late Queen being "horrified" - I personally believe she was made of sterner stuff.

It should be remember that she, too, in 2014 caused a stir when, before the Scottish Independence referendum, she hoped that "voters will think very carefully about the future". Or words to that effect.

As for Mr Farage - well, he would say that, wouldn't he.

Granniesunite Tue 20-Feb-24 20:29:25

I’d ask how anyone with a bit of clout can watch night after night the carnage being shown on our tv screens and say nothing! It’s inhuman to say nothing.

I’m not a royalist but Prince William has gone up in my estimation today.

He’s stuck his neck out for justice and peace and I say good for you.

He’s a different generation and he’s probably learned quite a bit from his own life’s experiences.

The old ways were not always the right way.

Freya5 Tue 20-Feb-24 20:23:46

Farzanah

So what has William said?

‘End to the fighting as soon as possible”
“Terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack.
“Desperate need for humanitarian support to Gaza” and for hostages to be released.

Good for him I say and many in U.K. would second it. It’s not different to the government’ revised stance is it?

Well at least they have a revised stance, unlike Starmer who is waiting for snp to decide for him which side of the fence he will fall.

Freya5 Tue 20-Feb-24 20:18:52

Pity he hasn't sent a message to Putin re the same. People are forgetting about every other atrocity going on in the world. A ceasefire would give the terrorists time to reconvene,rehide and build up their arsenal's.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Feb-24 20:17:04

Here is what Prince William said

Freya5 Tue 20-Feb-24 20:16:54

Parsley3

William clearly thinks that it is not enough for a Royal just to exist and a 21st century monarchy should get involved. He is showing that he wants to make a difference and I applaud that.

Nice to hear, I wonder if it had been the King you would have thought the same.

Casdon Tue 20-Feb-24 20:11:03

I suggest Farage sticks to the periphery where he belongs. This won’t change the positive way in which William is viewed by the electorate one iota, in fact it will probably enhance his standing. Sorry Glorianny, but there it is. Your anti-hero triumphs.

Farzanah Tue 20-Feb-24 20:06:39

So what has William said?

‘End to the fighting as soon as possible”
“Terrible human cost of the conflict in the Middle East since the Hamas terrorist attack.
“Desperate need for humanitarian support to Gaza” and for hostages to be released.

Good for him I say and many in U.K. would second it. It’s not different to the government’ revised stance is it?