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Islamaphobia is getting out of control

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ronib Sat 24-Feb-24 07:56:13

Wwm2 yes my mistake- all this Islamophobia and anti stuff is very difficult to understand and keep up to date.
I don’t understand why SB should be muzzled in this debate and branded as an Islamophobe. Exactly how does this country move on from here?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Feb-24 07:52:54

Kandinsky

*"I don't actually believe that the Islamists have got control of our country, but what I do believe is they've got control of Khan, and they've got control of London," Mr Anderson said*

Well this could be true. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

Not sure how people can totally dismiss this statement - what 100% proof have you got that it’s not true?

You do realise that this is racist rhetoric in its worse form?

Swap the word Islamist with Jew - it is simply not to be tolerated.

Anderson and Braverman need the whip withdrawn.

Galaxy Sat 24-Feb-24 07:48:13

It is anti semitism I am seeing particularly by those who think they are the good guys.

Kandinsky Sat 24-Feb-24 07:42:43

"I don't actually believe that the Islamists have got control of our country, but what I do believe is they've got control of Khan, and they've got control of London," Mr Anderson said

Well this could be true. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

Not sure how people can totally dismiss this statement - what 100% proof have you got that it’s not true?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Feb-24 07:42:07

Braverman is guilty of Islamaphobia not anti-Islamaphobia.

She has form.

ronib Sat 24-Feb-24 07:39:43

Ouch. I don’t know if SB is guilty of anti Islamophobia but in such a complex situation, all voices should be heard in Parliament. Politicians make statements which are inflated and hijacked by opposition parties and used against them. But I think it’s important for MPs to own their own voices. If any MP has genuine concerns, then it’s legitimate parliamentary practice to raise them, explain and defend them too. Even when the words spoken seem not to make any sense at all.

Vintagewhine Sat 24-Feb-24 07:34:42

M0nica

is it any worse than anti-semitism?

One of our main parties is anti-semitic, the other is Islamophobic and all parties seem to have it in for Christians.

It's all vile, none of it is acceptable

Vintagewhine Sat 24-Feb-24 07:33:37

It's vile behavior designed to appeal to a certain section of society. No one should spout these horrible lies especially mps, it's racist claptrap and our law makers should know better. Nasty behavior by nasty people!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Feb-24 07:33:12

M0nica

is it any worse than anti-semitism?

One of our main parties is anti-semitic, the other is Islamophobic and all parties seem to have it in for Christians.

When you have members of parliament claiming that London is being taken over by islamists and rhetoric from a former disgraced Home Secretary claiming that British institutions are now overtaken by islamists - then I would say yes it is something to be very concerned about. Change the word Islamist for Jew and we are right back in Nazi Germany.

I will not get into the ridiculous game of one evil form of prejudice is worse than another.

maddyone Sat 24-Feb-24 07:32:52

M0nica

is it any worse than anti-semitism?

One of our main parties is anti-semitic, the other is Islamophobic and all parties seem to have it in for Christians.

Just what I think Monica.

Casdon Sat 24-Feb-24 07:27:16

Lee Anderson yesterday according to ITV news:

‘Speaking on GB News, Mr Anderson said Mr Khan had "given our capital city away to his mates".

"I don't actually believe that the Islamists have got control of our country, but what I do believe is they've got control of Khan, and they've got control of London," Mr Anderson said.’

Really inflammatory and racist talk, not to mention inaccurate. My first thought though was that if he had a brain he’d be dangerous, because he spouts nonsense so frequently that surely nobody takes any notice? Sunak needs to take action because he really isn’t fit to serve.

M0nica Sat 24-Feb-24 07:25:36

is it any worse than anti-semitism?

One of our main parties is anti-semitic, the other is Islamophobic and all parties seem to have it in for Christians.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Feb-24 07:13:37

We have Braverman and Anderson stirring up the most awful Islamaphobia.

I don’t think that we have ever had British MPs saying such racist and hateful rhetoric since Mosely. They are being backed by the worst sort of editorship. It is so redolent of the 20s and 30s.

Jewish and Christian leaders are calling for it to stop, as well as Tories who see this as a disaster for their party, as it will never ever end well.

Rory Stewart

This idea that “London is in the grip of Islamists” is deluded and it’s awful - an obsession that thrives among a bizarre and dangerous coalition. No conservative MP should ever be spouting this stuff.