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Too many British families are hungry!

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CvD66 Tue 27-Feb-24 13:55:32

According to Food Foundation tracker, 15% of UK households, approx 8m adults and 3m children, experienced food insecurity in January, as food prices continued to hit low-income families. (Today’s Guardian).
The report states that 60% of households bought less fruit and 44% less vegetables. Already the NHS has recorded an increase in hospital admissions for nutrition deficiency. Cancer UK has estimated there are 33,000 extra cases of cancer in UK associated with deprivation.
In contrast to this, the UK has 171 billionaires.
Is this really a country we can be proud of?

SeaWoozle Tue 27-Feb-24 19:09:57

Germanshepherdsmum

Your evidence for that is … ? As opposed to the evidence of my own eyes, and Primrose’s? People have no idea how to cook nowadays. My mother and grandmother managed on very little money. And I mean very little. They knew how to make a meal out of next to nothing . I think many of today’s hard up mothers would prioritise getting their nails done and buying false eyelashes from what I have seen in television interviews .

You can buy both from pound shops.

People are allowed to look good and feel nice, even if it's maybe the last of their cash and cost them next to nothing from a pound shop (where I used to work we sold both for £1 each). I struggle to comprehend how people can be so £&#@ing spiteful & judgemental. People on low incomes should NOT have to justify their spending to people who have "more" than them.

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

Grannyben Tue 27-Feb-24 19:14:57

Primrose 53, I'm afraid ALL young kids don't get free school meals. They are only given to children in Reception, Year one and Year 2 so children in nursery and, those from Years 3 to 11 don't unless they qualify through the local authorities low income schemes.

Also, whilst I'm aware some breakfast clubs may give free food I think they are In the minority. I know my daughter pays £10 a day for her little one to attend before and after school.

JaneJudge Tue 27-Feb-24 19:20:04

MissAdventure

When I go out, I see no evidence of depressed people, people caught up in domestic violence, people who have terminal illnesses.
Yet I know there are droves of them.

yes quite. People ho cant afford KFc wont be in KFc but I have just realised I have only read page 1 sad

keepcalmandcavachon Tue 27-Feb-24 19:21:20

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

Please don't disown me SeaWoozle, because if you were MY daughter I'd be so Bl**dy proud of you!

MissAdventure Tue 27-Feb-24 19:27:17

Primrose, I only have a small freezer.
My kitchen is tiny.

And of course, it has never occurred to make soup, I needed someone to tell me. wink

MissAdventure Tue 27-Feb-24 19:31:36

Of course, that's excluding how I'm going to carry these veg.
A taxi there and back, because I can't walk to and from the bus stop.

So, add £14 to my shop in transport costs.
Incidentally, the veg leech out vitamins, the longer they're kept.

JaneJudge Tue 27-Feb-24 19:32:00

Most people who use food banks are working people not people on benefits. They are generally people who have had something unexpected happen to them, like a vet bill, time off work sick, looking after another family member who is sick. The list goes on. People don;t always have their family to rely on, they don't have savings, don't have a contract at work or stable employment because of how work is organised these days - gig, 0 hours contracts. High rents and lower home ownership, lack of social housing, is really hard on lots of people who haven't got on the property ladder or had stability in life or just an alright life in work, maybe a divorce, maybe a death of a spouse, maybe the death of a child and even if you have other smaller situations and a small amount of money other situations might make you struggle too.

I'm going to cook tea but none of this is rocket science

MissAdventure Tue 27-Feb-24 19:33:23

All this from people who are only too pleased to say how they treat their grown up children to cars, holidays, rent money, etc.

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:33:26

SeaWoozle

Cossy

Both my children work with vulnerable young people in different jobs. The things they tell me are shocking. It shouldn't be happening in 2024.

And you're right, NOBODY needs to be a billionaire. How boring.

I'd have a lovely time giving it all away.
Down to the last couple of million. 😃

JaneJudge Tue 27-Feb-24 19:34:00

Soup kitchens have always existed anyway, maybe the people should have just thought about soup more

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:37:17

MissInterpreted

And let's not forget, that whatever the causes of food poverty, and whatever their parents are spending what little money they have on - it's never the fault of the children. Children should not be going hungry in 2024.

👏👏👏

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:40:08

We also did several sessions on meals in a slow cooker and everyone was given a new slow cooker to keep

That was a very good initiative.

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:43:50

SeaWoozle

Germanshepherdsmum

Your evidence for that is … ? As opposed to the evidence of my own eyes, and Primrose’s? People have no idea how to cook nowadays. My mother and grandmother managed on very little money. And I mean very little. They knew how to make a meal out of next to nothing . I think many of today’s hard up mothers would prioritise getting their nails done and buying false eyelashes from what I have seen in television interviews .

You can buy both from pound shops.

People are allowed to look good and feel nice, even if it's maybe the last of their cash and cost them next to nothing from a pound shop (where I used to work we sold both for £1 each). I struggle to comprehend how people can be so £&#@ing spiteful & judgemental. People on low incomes should NOT have to justify their spending to people who have "more" than them.

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you.

If some of these folk here were my parents (because most are probably old enough to be) I'd disown you

Oh, that made me choke 🤣🤣🤣
I expect they might be glad (no offence intended 😁)

SeaWoozle Tue 27-Feb-24 19:44:40

JaneJudge

Most people who use food banks are working people not people on benefits. They are generally people who have had something unexpected happen to them, like a vet bill, time off work sick, looking after another family member who is sick. The list goes on. People don;t always have their family to rely on, they don't have savings, don't have a contract at work or stable employment because of how work is organised these days - gig, 0 hours contracts. High rents and lower home ownership, lack of social housing, is really hard on lots of people who haven't got on the property ladder or had stability in life or just an alright life in work, maybe a divorce, maybe a death of a spouse, maybe the death of a child and even if you have other smaller situations and a small amount of money other situations might make you struggle too.

I'm going to cook tea but none of this is rocket science

The mean average amount of money held in a UK savings account is £17,365.

Up to a third (34%) of adults had either no savings (or less than £1,000) in a savings account.

Around six in 10 (61%) UK adults save money either every or most months.

Almost two-thirds (65%) of people believe they wouldn’t be able to last three months without borrowing money.

Savings accounts are the most popular savings method among UK adults, with over half (57%) using these to save money.

Men have more savings on average than women across every age group.

Source - Money.co.uk

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:44:58

Thanks for the tip about Pound Shop nails and eyelashes, I'll take a look. My nails are terrible and my eyelashes practically non-existent.

SeaWoozle Tue 27-Feb-24 19:45:37

Callistemon21

Thanks for the tip about Pound Shop nails and eyelashes, I'll take a look. My nails are terrible and my eyelashes practically non-existent.

Seriously, we sold loads of them and folk said they were really good! 😊

Cossy Tue 27-Feb-24 19:47:43

Sorry if I’m being a bit blunt, but a few of you on here literally have no idea! It’s not about being able to cook or not, nor making soup! It’s about third generational broken families, so chaotic and dysfunctional they can barely function themselves. It’s about huge amounts of young families living in temp accommodation, with no cooking facilities who are not allowed to purchase a two ring cooker and small freezer as they’re not allowed them in their rooms! It’s about a family whose main breadwinner had a breakdown and lost his job so they all lost their privately rented home and I found them living in a tent! Mum and Dad and two teenage children! It’s about sudden bereavements, men running off and leaving mum and kids, Mum’s becoming addicts because they lost their baby, so many sad and chaotic families before you even add in care leavers and people suddenly losing their jobs.

Really, some of you have no idea at all, no matter what we all think, sometimes it really is there but for the grace of god!

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:49:44

MissAdventure

Of course, that's excluding how I'm going to carry these veg.
A taxi there and back, because I can't walk to and from the bus stop.

So, add £14 to my shop in transport costs.
Incidentally, the veg leech out vitamins, the longer they're kept.

Have you got room in your freezer for frozen veg? No preparation and apparently frozen really quickly so the vitamin content remains high.
Not sprouts, though. I bought a bag because there was a rumour there'd be a shortage at Christmas.
Sprout soup anyone?

DamaskRose Tue 27-Feb-24 19:50:38

I just can’t believe some of the comments on here. Are you really as blind to the poverty in this country as you seem to be? Do you really think that the answer to poverty is to live on soup?! Beggars belief!

Cossy Tue 27-Feb-24 19:52:02

Btw there are plenty of people without freezers!

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Feb-24 19:53:29

SeaWoozle

Callistemon21

Thanks for the tip about Pound Shop nails and eyelashes, I'll take a look. My nails are terrible and my eyelashes practically non-existent.

Seriously, we sold loads of them and folk said they were really good! 😊

I'm just worried that if I stick on nails, one might flick off at an inopportune time or my own might get worse still underneath.
As for lashes, I've given in.

MissInterpreted Tue 27-Feb-24 19:55:32

Well said, Cossy!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 27-Feb-24 19:57:36

If I were down to my last couple of pounds and needed food I wouldn’t be spending it on false nails or eyelashes. I have been a very hard up single mother who went without food in order to feed my son. I know more about being hungry than some might imagine. I’m extremely grateful not to be your mother SeaWoozle. For an apparently new poster, you are very rude and opinionated.

MissAdventure Tue 27-Feb-24 19:58:00

Yes, I have room enough to keep a couple of packets of frozen veg, I also have a large stock of canned veg, and yes, I do and have always made soup.

SeaWoozle Tue 27-Feb-24 19:58:38

Callistemon21

Oh, that made me choke 🤣🤣🤣
I expect they might be glad (no offence intended 😁)

😁 No offence taken 🤗 Who would possibly want a daughter like me? Speaking up for those with no voice and being a right PITA regarding people's rights and freedom to live their best life?!

Pffft.

Sh00t me now 🤣