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Prince Harry loses his appeal

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maddyone Wed 28-Feb-24 11:35:06

It’s just been announced, Prince Harry has lost his appeal to have armed security provided when he is in Britain.
I’m not surprised.

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:26:26

Also I made a good point didn't I? Lol

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:24:15

Anniebach

how many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated
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VioletSky I have no wish to continue any communication with you , how many negative comments? ask the King , and Prince and Princess of Wales

I would advise not joining a train of continuously tagging just one person if what you wanted was to add to strength in numbers browbeating someone... because you might get a reply

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:20:54

There is a good example

How many comments along the lines of "horrible, selfish and lazy" could we possibly read about ourselves before we felt hated?

You see, it's not really down to the people doing something to decide how the person on the recieving end should feel, neither is it down to the people doing something to decide how their own comments are viewed by others

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 12:19:20

how many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated
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VioletSky I have no wish to continue any communication with you , how many negative comments? ask the King , and Prince and Princess of Wales

karmalady Thu 29-Feb-24 12:16:04

eazybee

It is Harry's purpose in life to cause trouble as he has little aptitude for anything such as work; if he can hurt his father, stepmother, brother and sister-in-law, so much the better.

Spot on. He has come out of the woodwork at the worst possible time. He must be incredibly lacking in intelligence, trying to gather sympathy when we are so worried about king Charles and princess Kate. Harry is a horrible selfish lazy man

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:10:29

Anniebach

VioletSky Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

I do not have to prove anything , I dislike liars, people who cause hurt to others, dislike is not hate, obviously you experience hate

Then by the same rule, I do not have to prove anything either

You can use any synonym you want

Hatred is a common way to describe persistent negative comments about a person online and that's what I see consistently

How many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated?

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:09:01

Oh, how things can change! ☹

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:01:11

VioletSky

Smileless2012

What's hateful about asking some one to give an example of hate because the two already asked to do so haven't VS?

Harassing people over several comments when they were neither talking to you or about you is not ok

You should know that

Requests to clarify statements which have made unfounded accusations about others is not harrassment.

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 11:59:10

VioletSky Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

I do not have to prove anything , I dislike liars, people who cause hurt to others, dislike is not hate, obviously you experience hate

Jaberwok Thu 29-Feb-24 11:33:05

Harry has, by anybody's standards, treated his family particularly his elderly grandparents appallingly, even to the point of allowing his once much loved SIL along with his father, to be accused of racism. Unfortunately this once much loved Prince has become very unlovely. Feelings of hatred ? No, sadness that this 'turncoats' unpopularity has been totally engineered by himself. Spiteful comments even extended to his school matron would you believe? Compromising other people's privacy, yuk!! What Harry has become is actually a tragedy and all for money! How could he? As for his security? No I don't think so, just be grateful you're offered anything at all at tax payers expense.

Rosie51 Thu 29-Feb-24 11:19:53

VioletSky Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

Not thinking highly of someone because of things they've said or done is not hatred. You have expressed dislike of things posters have said, does that mean you hate those posters?

It's for those who have asserted there are hateful posts on this thread to reference the individual posts and not just make sweeping unjustified accusations. The fact that none have been cited is indicative that it is just empty posturing.

Was Glorianny's assertion that Charles is not affectionate so probably won't care about not seeing his grandchildren hatred? It was a spiteful thing to say.

Smileless2012 Thu 29-Feb-24 11:00:42

hatred across various media doesn't equate to hatred being expressed here on GN.

Smileless2012 Thu 29-Feb-24 10:59:03

Thank you Annie smile.

I agree with Annie that your post ^describes the allegations of hatred perfectly maddy.

I don't know how many bedrooms H & M have in their mansion but surely there are enough for him to get over his bedroom 'trauma'.

Mollygo Thu 29-Feb-24 10:58:06

VioletSky

Gransnet

Are we saying that Harry and Meghan get no hatred across various media?

If not then saying that all the hatred that gets drummed up against them puts them and their children at physical risk is an absolutely valid point that people are at liberty to type anywhere.

Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

Are we saying that Harry and Meghan get no hatred across various media?

Is that the royal we or are you now claiming to speak for others?

AGAA4 Thu 29-Feb-24 10:53:03

Hatred is a very strong word and I feel that it's more disapproval of the way Harry has behaved towards his family.
If he and his family are in danger it's Harry himself who has put them there.

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 10:44:35

Gransnet

Are we saying that Harry and Meghan get no hatred across various media?

If not then saying that all the hatred that gets drummed up against them puts them and their children at physical risk is an absolutely valid point that people are at liberty to type anywhere.

Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 09:38:09

Yes Maddyone that describes the allegations of hatred perfectly.

maddyone Thu 29-Feb-24 09:36:03

vague and unpleasant allegations of hatred

It’s got a name: it’s called bullying.
It’s trying to close posters and discussion down by making unfounded accusations.
It’s a tactic used by people in all walks of life when they want to close down discussions. Gransnet is no different.

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 09:35:44

I understand Smileless

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 09:34:40

Harry’s brother had a bigger bedroom and when Harry left home his step mother took his bedroom and used it as a dressing room, surely any man in their late 30’s would be so
distressed by this 😪

maddyone Thu 29-Feb-24 09:29:29

M0nica

I love the title of his thread. Prince Harry lost his appeal when he decided to desert his wider family for (what he hoped would be) the fleshpots of Hollywood.

Thank you Monica.
I started the thread and didn’t initially see the slightly double entendre in the thread. You gave me a smile on this horrible, grey morning.
He has indeed lost his appeal hasn’t he? grin

Smileless2012 Thu 29-Feb-24 09:25:59

I take your point Annie but I do think that vague and unpleasant allegations of hatred should be dealt with.

Apologies Mollygo my post @ 09.22 was in response to you, not Callistemon.

Rosie51 Thu 29-Feb-24 09:24:02

Glorianny

If GN had the facility to cut and paste several things from different posts I could list the items that embody hatred. They don't.
But my former comment remains.
If people are saying awful things about someone they don't actually hate, then they are actually much worse. You wonder what they are full of. Spite comes to mind. It's certainly not the milk of human kindness, or even humanity.

You could just do one per post. You could make two, three or more posts to verify your claim. Or is it easier just to make unfounded accusations and not have to prove them?

Spite comes to mind. Harry was extremely spiteful in his book towards Catherine and William.

Smileless2012 Thu 29-Feb-24 09:22:41

Yes, our ES and his wife made false unsubstantiated allegations too Callistemon. As you say it's something that happens in everyday life and not just on GN.

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 09:19:29

May I suggest windups are ignored, threads on the Sussex couple have been removed caused by replying to windups.