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Prince Harry loses his appeal

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maddyone Wed 28-Feb-24 11:35:06

It’s just been announced, Prince Harry has lost his appeal to have armed security provided when he is in Britain.
I’m not surprised.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:01:11

VioletSky

Smileless2012

What's hateful about asking some one to give an example of hate because the two already asked to do so haven't VS?

Harassing people over several comments when they were neither talking to you or about you is not ok

You should know that

Requests to clarify statements which have made unfounded accusations about others is not harrassment.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:09:01

Oh, how things can change! ☹

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:10:29

Anniebach

VioletSky Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

I do not have to prove anything , I dislike liars, people who cause hurt to others, dislike is not hate, obviously you experience hate

Then by the same rule, I do not have to prove anything either

You can use any synonym you want

Hatred is a common way to describe persistent negative comments about a person online and that's what I see consistently

How many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated?

karmalady Thu 29-Feb-24 12:16:04

eazybee

It is Harry's purpose in life to cause trouble as he has little aptitude for anything such as work; if he can hurt his father, stepmother, brother and sister-in-law, so much the better.

Spot on. He has come out of the woodwork at the worst possible time. He must be incredibly lacking in intelligence, trying to gather sympathy when we are so worried about king Charles and princess Kate. Harry is a horrible selfish lazy man

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 12:19:20

how many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated
,
VioletSky I have no wish to continue any communication with you , how many negative comments? ask the King , and Prince and Princess of Wales

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:20:54

There is a good example

How many comments along the lines of "horrible, selfish and lazy" could we possibly read about ourselves before we felt hated?

You see, it's not really down to the people doing something to decide how the person on the recieving end should feel, neither is it down to the people doing something to decide how their own comments are viewed by others

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:24:15

Anniebach

how many negative comments do you think any individual can take until they feel persecuted and hated
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VioletSky I have no wish to continue any communication with you , how many negative comments? ask the King , and Prince and Princess of Wales

I would advise not joining a train of continuously tagging just one person if what you wanted was to add to strength in numbers browbeating someone... because you might get a reply

VioletSky Thu 29-Feb-24 12:26:26

Also I made a good point didn't I? Lol

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:34:28

I don’t think H & M are hated by posters on GN

From what I have read most think it is extremely unreasonable to leave the firm but still expect all the perks of the job.

Mollygo Thu 29-Feb-24 12:37:47

VioletSky

Also I made a good point didn't I? Lol

No, but it obviously makes you feel good, so keep on believing.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:39:56

It's up to them what they do, a difficult decision for Harry to make but if he felt it was the right one, fair enough.

Once the decision was made then there was no need for all the books, Oprah interview and angst they have both caused since. They had plenty of money, could have had a good life without all the publicity which they said they were trying to get away from but have since sought relentlessly. 🤔

The Duchess of Kent decided to withdraw from public life. Have we heard much of her since?

A dignified silence is the best policy if anyone is trying to avoid press attention.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Feb-24 12:43:09

Callistemon21 👍

Sarnia Thu 29-Feb-24 12:45:04

Callistemon21

It's up to them what they do, a difficult decision for Harry to make but if he felt it was the right one, fair enough.

Once the decision was made then there was no need for all the books, Oprah interview and angst they have both caused since. They had plenty of money, could have had a good life without all the publicity which they said they were trying to get away from but have since sought relentlessly. 🤔

The Duchess of Kent decided to withdraw from public life. Have we heard much of her since?

A dignified silence is the best policy if anyone is trying to avoid press attention.

Says it all very well.

Joseann Thu 29-Feb-24 12:53:33

Indeed, Callistemon. IF Harry had said, "we're off to take some time out because it's all getting too much for us", and stuck to that, people would have understood. The problemn is, he wasn't gone more than 5 minutes than up he pops with that damaging interview. I think it was possibly all planned.

Haydnpat Thu 29-Feb-24 13:40:03

Good

Smileless2012 Thu 29-Feb-24 13:54:01

When you see photo's of H with W and K it reminds you of how close they once were. W & K must be heartbroken at such a public betrayal sad.

Jaberwok Thu 29-Feb-24 14:33:32

I too totally agree that had they left the RF for a more private and freer life abroad, that would have been perfectly understandable and acceptable. They had plenty of money with the expectation of more inheritance, to live comfortably for the rest of their lives and remain on good terms with their family and the public I think what people cannot understand, me amongst them, is why they felt it necessary to make yet more money by trashing Harry's family, this country and the Commonwealth? Why would you do that? The late Queen gave them a whole year to make up their minds as to what they actually did want, Pa gave them a substantial sum to keep them during that year, so what's their problem? For me it's incomprehensible, on the world stage, to be so spiteful, bordering on cruel particularly to your very elderly grandparents, who loved you, your SIL whom you purported to love, your brother whom you were extremely close to, to the extent of betrayal and possible destruction. Even the Duke of Windsor didn't do his best to destroy the RF. Once he'd gone he never ever attacked them personally. Frankly I'm just bewildered by Harry.

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Feb-24 15:06:46

Frankly I'm just bewildered by Harry.

Yes, no hate at all, just bewildered by the change in him..

Rosie51 Thu 29-Feb-24 15:21:11

Jaberwok your post sums up the situation perfectly. I think that's how most of us feel, we just cant understand why he's done and said the things he has. It was all so unnecessary, and so at odds with the person we believed him to be.

eazybee Thu 29-Feb-24 15:48:27

I feel utter contempt for Harry's actions, the worst ones being his deliberate and sustained attempts to frustrate his late grandmother and his father from seeing his children.
One of the worst aspects of people who choose to estrange themselves from their family.

His witness statement to the court bemoans the fact that 'The UK is central to the heritage of my children and a place I want them to feel at much as home as where they live at the moment in the US. That cannot happen if it's not possible to keep them safe when they are on UK soil.'

This apparently cannot happen unless they have constant taxpayer-funded police protection .
Do the Tindalls have this, the children of Peter Phillips and the Duke of York?

MayBee70 Thu 29-Feb-24 15:48:33

Callistemon21

^Frankly I'm just bewildered by Harry^.

Yes, no hate at all, just bewildered by the change in him..

I think he’s a very troubled person. My heart bled for both boys when they lost their mother, especially with William being the same age as my son. And people I know that have lost parents or siblings at such a young age do seem to carry that grief and often anger with them throughout their life. But I don’t understand what seems to be a need in him to inflict pain on others.I disliked Camilla immensely for a long time but now respect her for how strong and supportive she is being now. It’s all very puzzling.

Glorianny Thu 29-Feb-24 15:49:53

Anniebach

VioletSky Maybe the onus should be on those who do not think highly of them to prove they aren't hated because that's not my experience and I doubt it is theirs

I do not have to prove anything , I dislike liars, people who cause hurt to others, dislike is not hate, obviously you experience hate

Synonyms for "dislike"-hate
detest
loathe
abominate
abhor
despise
scorn
shun
execrate
be averse to
have an aversion to
hold in disfavour
have no liking for
disapprove of
object to
oppose
disagree with
take exception to
find distasteful
regard with distaste
regard with disgust
be unable to tolerate
find intolerable
be unable to bear
be unable to stand
be unable to abide
shrink from
shudder at
find repellent
be unable to stomach
disrelish
disfavour

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 15:51:45

My daughters were 5 and 7 when their much love daddy died very suddenly, definitely no anger

Glorianny Thu 29-Feb-24 15:54:59

eazybee

I feel utter contempt for Harry's actions, the worst ones being his deliberate and sustained attempts to frustrate his late grandmother and his father from seeing his children.
One of the worst aspects of people who choose to estrange themselves from their family.

His witness statement to the court bemoans the fact that 'The UK is central to the heritage of my children and a place I want them to feel at much as home as where they live at the moment in the US. That cannot happen if it's not possible to keep them safe when they are on UK soil.'

This apparently cannot happen unless they have constant taxpayer-funded police protection .
Do the Tindalls have this, the children of Peter Phillips and the Duke of York?

How is he stopping his father from seeing his children?
They live a sheltered life in the US but I am sure Charles. could see them if he wanted to. H won't bring them here of course because of a lack of security. Should he put them at risk?

Anniebach Thu 29-Feb-24 15:55:32

Harry spoke of the welcome Megan received from his family,

Meghan has previously opened up on what it was like to spend Christmas with the Firm, and said: "I remember so vividly the first Christmas at Sandringham, calling my mom, and she's like 'How's it going?' and I said 'Oh my gosh it’s amazing'. It's just like a big family like I always wanted. And there was just this constant movement and energy and fun."

Prince Harry also previously gushed about their first Christmas together, when he took over BBC Radio 4 for a special show in December 2017.

"The family loved having her there”, he said. “There's always that family part of Christmas [where] there's always that work element there as well, and I think together we had an amazing time. We had great fun staying with my brother and sister-in-law and running round with the kids. Christmas was fantastic."

Asked whether there were any family traditions he had to explain to Meghan before their first Christmas, he said: “Oh plenty, I think we've got one of the biggest families that I know of, and every family is complex as well. No look, she's done an absolutely amazing job. She's getting in there and it’s the family I suppose that she's never had."‌