Prince Harry loses his appeal

Smileless2012

Unsubstantiated allegations that hatred is being shown on this or any thread is harassement VS, as without specific examples no one knows whose being accused.

Your post yesterday @ 23.03 "Comments like this are hateful" in relation to a post of mine you quoted was talking directly to me which is why I responded to you directly.

Requesting specific examples, especially when allegations of hatred are made are perfectly acceptable and if they cannot or will not be provided, it best not to make them in the first place.

The title of this thread is very apt isn't it Mollygo.

Yes it is very apt and rather clever Smileless2012, although I didn’t think of it that way until it was pointed out.
When you leave a job, you stop getting the benefits from that job.
It’s not a matter of hatred, merely normal practice.
Re: unsubstantiated allegations,
One DB resorted to that when he estranged himself from the rest of our family.

It’s another example of normal practice for some people in everyday life, not just on GN.

If GN had the facility to cut and paste several things from different posts I could list the items that embody hatred. They don't.
But my former comment remains.
If people are saying awful things about someone they don't actually hate, then they are actually much worse. You wonder what they are full of. Spite comes to mind. It's certainly not the milk of human kindness, or even humanity.

He is jealous and spiteful, two characteristics we never realised he had.

It is Harry's purpose in life to cause trouble as he has little aptitude for anything such as work; if he can hurt his father, stepmother, brother and sister-in-law, so much the better.

Unsubstantiated allegations that hatred is being shown on this or any thread is harassement VS, as without specific examples no one knows whose being accused.

Your post yesterday @ 23.03 "Comments like this are hateful" in relation to a post of mine you quoted was talking directly to me which is why I responded to you directly.

Requesting specific examples, especially when allegations of hatred are made are perfectly acceptable and if they cannot or will not be provided, it best not to make them in the first place.

The title of this thread is very apt isn't it Mollygo.

Well he always did enjoy going on the razz. It's just that now he has added in a vindictive side to his character.

I love the title of his thread. Prince Harry lost his appeal when he decided to desert his wider family for (what he hoped would be) the fleshpots of Hollywood.

What gets to me is the absolute waste of time and money when cases like this are brought. Particularly with non residents. What doesn’t he just go back to the USA and get on with his life there instead of causing trouble in a country he no longer wishes to live in ?

Especially when people aren't here 24/7 to answer such demands

Smileless2012

What's hateful about asking some one to give an example of hate because the two already asked to do so haven't VS?

Harassing people over several comments when they were neither talking to you or about you is not ok

You should know that

Tell him to bite the bullet and grow up

Smileless2012

I was more annoyed when it was said that being denied the security he wants, may make it difficult for him to be close to his family maddy. Oh that will be the family he constantly berates for money!!!

His family hardly ever come here, usually just him making court appearances to which he seems addicted to.In constantly shouting about his security he makes himself a target.

He used to be an endearing young chap, a bit dumb but full of life. He kept the dumb bit, unfortunately.

GrannySomerset

Prince Harry lost his appeal as far as I am concerned with the Oprah interview.

Syracute

It is still possible for someone to acquire a gun illegally . A person with a vendetta can access a gun. The sort of aggressive views spouted here come from the tabloids that whip up this hate and you only need one unbalanced individual to create a dangerous situation . It’s totally understandable for Harry to be concerned for himself and his family .

What makes you think anyone in the UK is a "person with a vendetta" against Harry, his wife or children. Acquiring a gun illegally in the UK isn't as easy as walking into Walmart and legally buying one, and even an "unbalanced individual" would find it tough. Guns are not the problem for the UK like the USA. The UK doesn't have mass shootings. After the mass shooting at the school in Dunblane gun control in the UK was tightened to an unprecedented level. There hasn't been a school shooting in the UK since that tragedy in 1996, in that time span the USA has had lots.

Yes it's fine for the specially trained British firearms police officers to provide security for working British royals

Yes, of course it is. No-one would argue with that.

Cold everyone seems to think they have lost protection completely.
As you have said, and I have said more than once, the level of protection was downgraded, not withdrawn completely.

Syracute

Nanatoone

Happy to see that Harry lost this case, this is not hatred, but just don’t want his bodyguards running around with guns in our soil. If it means he doesn’t come here it’s no loss. Is that hatred? I don’t think so, I do however, dislike backstabbing people.

Other royals have gun protection and I suppose that is ok for you ?

Yes it's fine for the specially trained British firearms police officers to provide security for working British royals. They are not for sale outside the working Royal family.

But British taxpayers do not want to provide round the clock security in California to the treacherous Prince.

What's hateful about asking some one to give an example of hate because the two already asked to do so haven't VS?

Good point! As regards the guns, if anyone here in the police uses one there is a huge investigation so I am sure they wouldn’t unless it was really necessary. Not like the USA and I would think the UK would be similar.

Glorianny

Callistemon21

He wants to pay for it himself but for his security to be able to be armed, as those protecting other members of the RF are

Not allowed here, it is against the law for bodyguards to carry any weapons.

Although it may well be legal in the USA.

No-one hates them, as you keep trying to assert, Glorianny, although they may dislike what they do and be weary of their shenanigans.

Of course they don't Callistemon21 .
However even you can't dispute that he is probably more at risk than any other Royal.
As I said he will probably fly in and out of the UK occasionally, but Meghan and the children will not. Why would they? They are protected in the US. Here they would not be.
Seems a bit hard on the kids and on Charles, who probably won't see his grandkids (mind I'm not sure he'll be that bothered, he's not really affectionate is he?)

The Sussex family will get police protection if they come to the UK for royal family purposes and engagements. As we saw at the Coronation and Harry's recent UK trip. But they won't get taxpayer funded protection for private engagements such as filming for Netflix.

Even Princess Anne doesn't get full time protection despite the kidnapping attempt where 3 people were shot.

Honestly if they didn't tip off the press to get papped they would get a lot less attention. William, Kate and the children manage to go about their private lives without being photographed at airports etc

No longer a working royal.

He’s no longer a royal,though. By his own choice.

No, we certainly don't want private security people let loose in the UK. This is not the States.

The downgrade was appropriate and that is why the appeal was rejected.

Nanatoone

Happy to see that Harry lost this case, this is not hatred, but just don’t want his bodyguards running around with guns in our soil. If it means he doesn’t come here it’s no loss. Is that hatred? I don’t think so, I do however, dislike backstabbing people.

Other royals have gun protection and I suppose that is ok for you ?