Lady Gabriella Windsor’s husband Thomas Kingston died from ‘catastrophic’ head wound.

I did not know this man but feel for his family. My neighbour ended his life with a shotgun to the head - he used to do my garden for me and I had seen him the day before. No hint of any distress. If someone really wishes to end their life, they do not give anything away. Very sad for everyone.

Yes exactly that Greenfinch. Impossible for others to understand.

I agree with you Kate , the mental anguish is so severe especially if it becomes psychotic , that the person becomes totally alienated from reality and is unable rationally to relate to the feelings of others.

Tana I think the person does think of the people left behind but their mental anguish is too much to take. My brother left a note saying he was sorry. They may not have asked for help or may have had help which didn't work. I know from personal experience, as do many others on here, that mental suffering is hell. Who would want to live like that?Maybe your friend's son had other issues which he never told anyone about. This often happens.

GF - grandfather.

It’s terribly sad, but if someone is so determined, there really isn’t much that can be done, other than to help the family try to understand that they were in no way responsible and the deceased had made his or her own decision.
Years ago, an acquaintance’s son hanged himself over a girlfriend - he was 14, such a waste.
My friend’s step-son hanged himself after years of drug abuse and issues around his 7 year old son. He’d had multiple interventions and on-going treatment, but we agreed after the event, that it was always on the cards. His GF had done the same thing.

Sad but I don't think the person ending their life think of the consequences for those left behind. A friend of mine had her son commit suicide just because his girlfriend, and mother of his young baby, was seen talking to another young man. He didn't ask who or why she did this, just hung himself. All these years later my dear friend has still not 'got over' his loss and it is a perpetual worry to her.

That is beyond tragic kircubbin2000. Devastating for the poor bereaved family. I cannot imagine their pain.
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A local family lost 10 year old son last year and I have just heard his 14 year old brother has done the same thing. You would never get over that.

I worked in an office with about six other girls of my age, around twenty. One quiet girl went on holiday, and when she came back she had put on a lot of weight. She remarked upon it to me, and I said I was sure she would lose it again very quickly now she was back at work and in her usual eating routine. A week or so later an older colleague came up to me at the bus stop where I was waiting to travel to work, and said that the girl had taken her own life the previous night. I felt so shocked that I almost collapsed - this was my first knowledge of anyone killing themselves, and I have never forgotten the sickening feeling, or failed to wonder if I had been tactless about her weight and pushed her to this act. She was an only child - her parents lives ruined. The legacy of suicide is so terrible.

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lefthanded oh for goodness sake!

Assumption and assuming

Accepting something is true without actual proof.

lefthanded oh for goodness sake!

Given that he had locked the door of the outbuilding where he was found, lefthanded, it’s a reasonable assumption that he intended to take his life.

Good point lefthanded
Everyone is assuming.

My brother was in the public eye too, (but obviously not a member of the royal family). He hung himself in 1999 and I will never get over it, I will never know "why", and I still can't forgive him for leaving his young children like that. It ruined my dad's remaining life - he blamed himself. I also blamed myself for not being able to protect him, and for having no clue that he was struggling. I now worry constantly about my children and nieces and nephew and the grandchildren and if they display any similar "family" character traits (which, of course they all do!) I worry even more.
My heart goes out to Lady Gabriella and the Kingston family. Their lives, like mine, will never be the same.

I’m sorry but have I missed something? Has it been announced that this was suicide? All I have seen is a statement saying that he died from a traumatic head wound and a gun was found nearby. Isn’t there a chance that this was an accident? He wouldn’t be the first person to forget to de-chamber a shotgun before cleaning it.

My dad's best friend committed suicide. He had rekindled a relationship with someone he loved years ago but she was now married. She went out with him for several months but then decided to stay in her marriage and ended their relationship. My dad called at his house to check on him and see if he was OK - but it was too late sadly.

Such a tragic end to a life, and at the risk of sounding trivial, thank you to those of you who have shared your dreadful experience of suicide within your family, it leaves such unanswered questions for those left behind. Annie, I remember well when you told us of your DD, I can't believe it was over 6 years ago

This is a huge subject.
I think the causes are many and complex. And each case is different.
My DD works on a mental health unit and often has suicidal patients but with the most suitable drug regimes and support they usually recover well.
Allowing people to talk is so important. Especially the quiet ones.
All best wishes to anyone feeling low.

Thankfully I have never had to experience this with anyone close to me.

In what could be said the positive is that a troubled soul has been laid to rest.

This is my first post. It is absolutely devastating when you lose a loved one to suicide because everybody says why didn’t they talk to someone. The Kingston family will have access to the best counselling, but their pain will be the same as anybody else who has suffered such a terrible loss. Added which they have the press to contend with. In time they will remember how Thomas lived his life and the wonderful contribution he made during his lifetime and not the way he died.

I lost my son to suicide in 1989 when he was 20 and my dear husband in 2019 after 51 years marriage. I have a daughter and two grandchildren and I want to show them that life is hard sometimes but you have to make the best of it and carry on.

I'm so sorry for those who have lost people in this way. It's hard. The loss of my brother was ove 40 years ago. There was very little help then. We tried but how could we really understand what he was going through? He was so lovely.

My dear niece took her own life 3 months ago. She was 37. For years she had suffered with mental illness. Nothing seemed to take her inner pain away. We tried helping her by talking to her and telling her she was loved, to no avail. She had tried a few times to end her life but was saved by her father calling for an ambulance. Sadly, this last time, she died whilst on the phone with the crisis team. She had called them for help in the early hours of the morning after taking an overdose with alcohol. Sadly she became unconscious whilst on the phone with them and the ambulance only arrived an hour later. By then it was too late 😢

Anniebach I totally agree and those that say it can be fixed don’t really know Someone can have all the understanding and help in the world and it can make no difference
A lady I know has tried multiple times to end her life she has talked copiously about how she wants to end it all she has had massive amounts of help from professionals, the NHS, friends, and family Police and ambulance were at her house almost daily for years sometimes multiple times a day …. the end of last year she was successful and killed herself Its what she wanted
Anniebach I cannot believe it’s 6 years I remember it like yesterday

Never will *MOnica, the support from GransNet brought me through x