Lee Anderson has joined the Reform UK political party!

I don’t know what all the fuss is about tbh.

They will all disappear after the next election just as all the other extreme right wing parties and their supporters have disappeared.

Can someone please tell me what “Supporting British Traditions” actually means? Do you mean having Roast Beef for Sunday lunch, Fish & Chips on a Friday, Going to a Christian Church on a Sunday, watching football, celebrating Easter and Christmas - is this what you mean?

Far as I can can see no one is stopping anyone following their own traditions??

Urmstongram, I think you’ll find that Mr Anderson was born in Sutton in Ashfield, which is In Nottinghamshire not Yorkshire.
My DH is a proud Yorkshire man and would like the difference pointed out.

eazybee

Although I don't support Lee Anderson in joining Reform, (he's been Labour, Conservative and now Reform) I do agree with your last post, Urmstongran. I am tired of being called racist, generally by people with no experience of living and working in a multi-racial society, because I do not support mass immigration, then zenophobic because I value British traditions.

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He’s not from Yorkshire, he’s from Nottinghamshire, you can tell by his accent?

eazybee

Although I don't support Lee Anderson in joining Reform, (he's been Labour, Conservative and now Reform) I do agree with your last post, Urmstongran. I am tired of being called racist, generally by people with no experience of living and working in a multi-racial society, because I do not support mass immigration, then zenophobic because I value British traditions.

Mass (legal) immigration is down to this govts policies failure! No one is arguing that that we shouldn’t control our borders, vet potential migrants or even have a points system.

As for the small boats issues, what I’m sick and tired of is people, including some MPs, holding this small minority of our population responsible for all this country’s woes and failings. Of course no one want violent criminals roaming unfettered around our country, whichever country they were born in.

All this hate towards anyone with a brown skin or different religion or different beliefs absolutely sickens me to the core!

I see hate and negatively online and in person towards Muslims, migrants, Jews, Trans, young people, gay people and so on and so forth.

For goodness sake we are ALL humans, some humans do bad things, most humans are decent, living, open people.

We live in a multi cultural world and a multi cultural country, and we are mostly all the richer for it.

How dare people who support Reform make my son-in-law feel unwelcome in the country where he was born

Hyperbolic nonsense from you growstuff.
I expected better.
That statement was just plain silly and not worthy of you.

Urmstongran

We have to agree to disagree (again) Iam. I don’t think Lee Anderson is a nasty person. Straight talking yes. An ex-miner, proud of his Yorkshire roots and values.

However, like most of us who lent our vote to Boris, we are soft centre right . No nutters please- no careless out right racism talk. Get a full grip on immigration- Yes. Loose talk about hatred- definitely no.

The whole point for us is the seemingly endless increase which causes such stress in our public services and on our welfare budget and not to ever play down the genuine , honest and usually delightful immigrants who actually do enrich us.

If that's what you truly believe, open your eyes and see where you're being led.

eazybee

Although I don't support Lee Anderson in joining Reform, (he's been Labour, Conservative and now Reform) I do agree with your last post, Urmstongran. I am tired of being called racist, generally by people with no experience of living and working in a multi-racial society, because I do not support mass immigration, then zenophobic because I value British traditions.

Who said anything about mass migration? Maybe people of this ilk seem to have a limited vocabulary for explaining themselves. They certainly don't seem to understand issues.

Sorry, that was for Urms remarks about Radio 4 and Tice.

But he is racist. The job of the BBC, and all reputable media, is not to allow someone who says it’s raining to be balanced by someone who says it isn’t. Their job is to stick their head out of the bloody window and report on whether their hair got wet.

Any thought on The CEO’s very telling remark about Jews planning to ‘go back’?

Cossy

I won’t be voting Reform, thanks very much and the only people I can see voting for them are disillusioned Tories, so a split for the Tory party. 🥳🥳🥳

I have never heard such nonsense as white people stating “I don’t want my GC growing up ashamed of their colour”

Honestly, you couldn’t make it up and Reform are welcome to 30p Lee, Farage and anyone else who thinks this way!

It's possibly just as well the louses are crawling out from under the woodwork now.

Although I don't support Lee Anderson in joining Reform, (he's been Labour, Conservative and now Reform) I do agree with your last post, Urmstongran. I am tired of being called racist, generally by people with no experience of living and working in a multi-racial society, because I do not support mass immigration, then zenophobic because I value British traditions.

Wait, what happened to his country? Who has it?

Urmstongran

Snap poll on line (in The Telegraph of all places) just now:

Is Lee Anderson right to join Reform UK?

Yes
82%

No
18%
Total votes: 22,035

That's hardly a surprise from Telegraph voters!

How dare people who support Reform make my son-in-law feel unwelcome in the country where he was born.

Urmstongran

Well Richard Tice did a great job of closing down pompous Sara Montague on Radio 4 this lunchtime. If you didn’t hear it, play it back on the BBC sounds. The determined left wing pot stirring of the BBC is embarrassing. Trying to ask Richard Tice to condemn Lee Anderson for saying things as they are and accusing him of being ‘racist’ by inference is unacceptable BBC. Well done Richard if you’re reading this !.

But people like Anderson and the bigoted oafs who support him who bother about skin colour are racist!

Well Richard Tice did a great job of closing down pompous Sara Montague on Radio 4 this lunchtime. If you didn’t hear it, play it back on the BBC sounds. The determined left wing pot stirring of the BBC is embarrassing. Trying to ask Richard Tice to condemn Lee Anderson for saying things as they are and accusing him of being ‘racist’ by inference is unacceptable BBC. Well done Richard if you’re reading this !.

I’m not sure that tells anyone anything useful. I think he’s right to join Reform (because it’s the natural home of racists), but it doesn’t mean I think he’s right about anything else, or would ever vote for him or his ilk.

I care. 😊

Urmstongran

Snap poll on line (in The Telegraph of all places) just now:

Is Lee Anderson right to join Reform UK?

Yes
82%

No
18%
Total votes: 22,035

Who cares? None of us do! Let our PM call a GE and see the outcome.

Reform UK is simply a breakaway far right wing for the nastiest of ex Tories and a lovely fit for them! If they do as “well” as UKIP did in the GE, we all have very little to even think about!

Yes, because nobody else wants him! He’ll be in his element with the other racists.

Snap poll on line (in The Telegraph of all places) just now:

Is Lee Anderson right to join Reform UK?

Yes
82%

No
18%
Total votes: 22,035

Urmstongran

I want my grandchildren to grow up not ashamed of their skin colour or their country’s proud history. I want statues of our national figures kept in place. I don’t want trigger warnings on our classic literature. I don’t want my grandchildren lied to in school by being told that a man can be a woman. I want my granddaughter to be able to have safe spaces and to be able to compete in sport. I want to control who is coming into my country and for my government to leave whatever organisation that they need to in order to achieve that.

As for other religions, go pray in peace in your places of worship and follow your religion’s customs but don’t try and force me to adhere to your religion’s rules. Do not threaten those who have a different view of the world to you. Learn English and embrace our values and we will all get along. If you don’t then I want you to leave, it is as simple as that.

I want low taxes and a small state and I want the ideological nonsense that has infected the civil service removed. I have decided that Reform will do that.

Vote Reform UK.

Firstly, I can assure you white born Brits are far far more strain in our Welfare system than any particular other race!

Secondly, we will not have low taxes for many many more years, we have huge debts to repay.

Finally, pretend all you like that the majority of Reform supporters and candidates are not pretty far ring wing. Some of just don’t believe this. Further division is certainly not what this country needs at the moment!

Nicenanny3

13:47HousePlantQueen

Don't be so rude, perhaps read the above posts about skin colour etc.

I am not being rude, I am just trying to grasp your point, surely you are not inferring that only white people can be racist? Or economically and politically controversial?

HousePlantQueen

Appropriate party for him. Reform party are saying what some people want to hear, are divisive, irresponsible and dishonest, but this does not seem to concern people. Anyone who believes that any party who promises net zero immigration and zero NHS waiting lists can actually achieve this, needs to have a reality check. It is the food will be cheaper and other countries will be queueing up at midnight to sign trade deals with UK, ie all the Brexit lies all over again, and despite the reality of the past 6 years, some still believe the snake oil salesmen.

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