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Just how much taxpayers money have the Tories wasted

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Mar-24 08:28:47

That latest is £500 million on the ridiculous Rwanda scheme.

Everything you look at is money gone down the drain because of the Tories economic uselessness.

HS2

PPE

A report by Best for Britain estimated that they have wasted north of £99.4 billion pounds - just since 2019.

We can no longer afford the Tories - no wonder our country is looking shabbier by the day.

Sarnia Fri 12-Apr-24 07:44:38

Katie59

These are gross under estimates HS2 is £100bn alone and over the years probably the same amount in addition, Brexit alone wasted £ billions.
In fairness I’m trying to think of any positive things the Tories have achieved, I’m struggling maybe someone else can remember any.

With the General Election on the horizon, I cannot think of anything that runs efficiently. Nothing is fit for purpose and that is after 14 years in Government. I have been a mostly Tory voter all my life but not this time. I cannot bring myself to vote for Sunak & Co.

Katie59 Fri 12-Apr-24 07:08:49

These are gross under estimates HS2 is £100bn alone and over the years probably the same amount in addition, Brexit alone wasted £ billions.
In fairness I’m trying to think of any positive things the Tories have achieved, I’m struggling maybe someone else can remember any.

Sarnia Thu 11-Apr-24 20:56:45

Add £34.000 to the running total. That's double the estimated cost for Michelle Donelan recent libel case. Why are the taxpayer's footing the bill for her misguided remarks?

Bonnybanko Sun 31-Mar-24 08:41:13

Out with the old and in with the new

Casdon Sun 31-Mar-24 07:31:38

MaizieD

Pippa000

Wales has spent £33 on implementing the 20mph throughout the Principality, which has according to recent reports increased pollution and accidents, and voted for 36 new Senedd members, up from the present 60 at an expected cost of around £90 million. So both parties are as bad as one another.

They haven't implemented 20mph throughout Wales.
Some evidence of your claims of increased pollution and accidents would be useful.

I want to see the evidence you cite too please Pippa000, because I can’t find anything that backs up what you’ve said. All the evidence I’ve seen says is that there is less pollution at 20mph because traffic travels more smoothly, rather than accelerating and decelerating, which happens more frequently at higher speeds. No official figures on accident rates have been published yet either have they?

Curtaintwitcher Sun 31-Mar-24 07:25:01

It's no wonder so many people are reluctant to work when they see how their taxes are spent. The public should have more say on everything the government do. They show nothing but contempt for the British people.

Wyllow3 Sun 31-Mar-24 00:01:17

Yes, I'd like a bit of evidence/explanation. Its quite something to allege with no back-up.

Dinahmo Sat 30-Mar-24 18:19:46

JenniferEccles

Interestingly the EU, also swamped with illegal migration, is exploring a Rwanda style solution to the problem facing the whole of Europe.

I have said all along that coping with the ever increasing influx of migrants is something every country involved has to deal with.

I don’t know any more than anyone else if the Rwanda plan will work as a deterrent, but at least the Tories are trying to do something.

Be under no illusion, immigration will soar under Starmer, and then heaven helps us.

Evidence for your last sentence or is that just your own opinion?

MaizieD Sat 30-Mar-24 17:55:46

Pippa000

Wales has spent £33 on implementing the 20mph throughout the Principality, which has according to recent reports increased pollution and accidents, and voted for 36 new Senedd members, up from the present 60 at an expected cost of around £90 million. So both parties are as bad as one another.

They haven't implemented 20mph throughout Wales.
Some evidence of your claims of increased pollution and accidents would be useful.

MaizieD Sat 30-Mar-24 17:51:35

Callistemon21

^Just how much taxpayers money have the Tories wasted^
But should we worry if taxation does not fund public spending?

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1333829-Do-taxes-really-fund-public-services

It's still public money, Callistemon. The government doesn't own it. It's still important that the government is held to account for misspending it.

Pippa000 Sat 30-Mar-24 15:45:32

Wales has spent £33 on implementing the 20mph throughout the Principality, which has according to recent reports increased pollution and accidents, and voted for 36 new Senedd members, up from the present 60 at an expected cost of around £90 million. So both parties are as bad as one another.

Grantanow Sat 30-Mar-24 10:03:42

It's not just direct wasteful spend - it's also poor decisions on a large scale. Privatising the water boards as monopolies enabled large profits to be made by shareholders at public expense and now it looks as if the only remedies to their failures will cost the taxpayer and consumer zillions to clear up the Tory sewage mess. And if they are nationalised the shareholders will claim compensation from the taxpayer. What a mess for Labour to inherit.

spabbygirl Fri 29-Mar-24 11:18:34

I'm just horrified with the way the Tories have spent our money, and the corruption, I see another Tory donor who gave the conservatives £5m is getting a knighthood.

And they say Labour is bad with the economy. I can't wait to get the gov't out and vote Labour so we get our public services like police, NHS, courts etc restored to a better level.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mansour-tory-mps-sunak-honours-b2520364.html

Callistemon21 Fri 29-Mar-24 11:05:30

Just how much taxpayers money have the Tories wasted
But should we worry if taxation does not fund public spending?

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1333829-Do-taxes-really-fund-public-services

Wyllow3 Fri 29-Mar-24 10:03:52

JenniferEccles

Interestingly the EU, also swamped with illegal migration, is exploring a Rwanda style solution to the problem facing the whole of Europe.

I have said all along that coping with the ever increasing influx of migrants is something every country involved has to deal with.

I don’t know any more than anyone else if the Rwanda plan will work as a deterrent, but at least the Tories are trying to do something.

Be under no illusion, immigration will soar under Starmer, and then heaven helps us.

"Be under no illusion, immigration will soar under Starmer, and then heaven helps us."

Evidence? Reasons? Policy is to reduce the backlog and speed up processing amongst other plans. It the Rwanda money had just been spent on this...

Happygirl79 Fri 29-Mar-24 09:51:16

Whitewavemark2

That latest is £500 million on the ridiculous Rwanda scheme.

Everything you look at is money gone down the drain because of the Tories economic uselessness.

HS2

PPE

A report by Best for Britain estimated that they have wasted north of £99.4 billion pounds - just since 2019.

We can no longer afford the Tories - no wonder our country is looking shabbier by the day.

I totally agree with you. It's quite depressing.

OldFrill Fri 29-Mar-24 09:23:15

paddyann54

Ah but..the ferries!!Thats always the retort when anyone mentions the mess the tories have made...Scotlands government made a mess of "the ferries" instead of having a long hard look ate how much money have been sifted /stolen from the public purse by this shower of incompetants.
Well I and all the folk know are pleased tohave a government who spend our taxes on the People who need it .
I'd make a list but you'd all just ignore it .Because you believe the media rubbish thats fed to you .Yet the SNP have been returned by popular vote time after time after time.
Would that be because we saw through the tories just after WW11 .1955 was the last time they hada majority here..and Labour lost their way and turned into Tory light so dont expect a huge turn back to them when Starmer and co are spouting the same rubbish we've been hearing from Sunak .
Saor Alba ,its the only way forward for us

The SNP does not even have enough support to form a working government alone, it depends on the inordinate power it gives to the Green party.

paddyann54 Fri 29-Mar-24 09:14:10

Ah but..the ferries!!Thats always the retort when anyone mentions the mess the tories have made...Scotlands government made a mess of "the ferries" instead of having a long hard look ate how much money have been sifted /stolen from the public purse by this shower of incompetants.
Well I and all the folk know are pleased tohave a government who spend our taxes on the People who need it .
I'd make a list but you'd all just ignore it .Because you believe the media rubbish thats fed to you .Yet the SNP have been returned by popular vote time after time after time.
Would that be because we saw through the tories just after WW11 .1955 was the last time they hada majority here..and Labour lost their way and turned into Tory light so dont expect a huge turn back to them when Starmer and co are spouting the same rubbish we've been hearing from Sunak .
Saor Alba ,its the only way forward for us

fancythat Fri 29-Mar-24 09:02:05

Even individuals with the same income and family set up, choose to spend their money in different ways.

I am pretty sure I would spend money differently to you, Whitewavemark2.

Grantanow Fri 29-Mar-24 08:46:44

And add the millions wasted by the Post Office with Tory approval in defending against the subpostmasters' wholly justified legal action in the High Court.

flappergirl Fri 15-Mar-24 20:52:24

"We can no longer afford the Tories" is the best election slogan I've ever seen!

OP, you should patent the rights and sell it to the opposition.

Summerfly Fri 15-Mar-24 18:52:07

Disgraceful.
Our defence funding has been cut to the core, at a time when world peace is so fragile. Great Britain is no longer.

petra Fri 15-Mar-24 17:40:03

Eu countries fund a scheme that re- settles asylum seekers in Libya to Rwanda for their own safety.
These are camps in Libya that are supported by the eu, and the conditions are horrendous.

Oreo Fri 15-Mar-24 17:36:05

Cossy

You’ve also got to add in payments to France to “stop the boats!)

That’s money well spent.France say it’s making a difference as they employ more people and have extra tech.Why shouldn’t we help them, they have a huge coastline to patrol and if it stops people drowning or reaching our shores then it’s fair that we do help out.

Oreo Fri 15-Mar-24 17:33:21

MadeInYorkshire

Freya5

Cossy

You’ve also got to add in payments to France to “stop the boats!)

Yes well France are on to a good thing there. See they're not complaining.

Just like Rwanda, they must be laughing their heads off! We are an utter embarrassment now, and I for one am no longer 'proud to be British'.

Oh that old ‘ not proud to be British’ thing again.
It’s nothing to do with being British, it’s everything to do with the present government.Which will be changing shortly.