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I've just been shown the away Nike shirts for real. You can't see the cross because it is on the inside of the top, the away one having no collar. Apparently the queue to buy them on Saturday in the Wembley shop was huge. DGD's size was sold out, so she had to get the smallest women's size, (it will last longer!) DGS's shirt cost nothing like the price the papers were saying, so I think it was all a bit of a storm in tea cup. The colour is lovely, I'd say it's mauve.

No, DGS did go through a short football phase, but his main interest was playing the game and he was quite good, he just supported the local, non-league football club. But it didn't last long.

Now some health problems and a mile and a half walk to school, and again home in the evening, plus school sport is sufficient for him.

Joseann

Casdon

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

I agree Casdon and explained up thread.

Wearing the kit also gives children a sense of pride and confidence which is an important step in their emotional growth too. An overweight, fat child, wearing their favourite kit may thereby gain self-esteem and cope better with anxiety. It goes beyond just physical health.

I agree - I don’t think that unless you’ve known children who are passionate about football, and lots of them are, you really understand the benefits it brings them.

Casdon

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

I agree Casdon and explained up thread.

Wearing the kit also gives children a sense of pride and confidence which is an important step in their emotional growth too. An overweight, fat child, wearing their favourite kit may thereby gain self-esteem and cope better with anxiety. It goes beyond just physical health.

Perhaps a 10 year old does understand woke. I think it means something along the lines of being aware of societal issues and facts.

A good thing surely?

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

Watching them play on the telly now v Brazil, and quite frankly this cross is so small on the collar you can hardly see it.

Don’t worry Callistemon, we always insure our parcels when we post to NZ 👍

Tracking means you can follow it all the way, although it seems to get stuck at the hub near Heathrow for days!

Yes, the cost of children’s activities and the equipment is extortionate, but who would not encourage their children/grandchildren to participate in sport or other activities and interests if they can possibly afford to. My grandson is absolutely football mad (and cricket and any other competitive sport) and rarely wears anything other than football kits, or school uniform. I’ve just bought his twin sister a new leotard for use during her gymnastics classes. Her Mum bought it and I transferred the money. We bought her riding hat, and her first riding boots. We are paying for her little brother to have his tonsils out rather than waiting for two years. We help our children where we can and I’m pretty sure most parents on here will also do what they can to help. Next month we’re taking our grandson who lives here in England to see Lion King in London. It’s expensive, but it’s something he’ll enjoy. If other people make different decisions that’s entirely up to them.

Don’t worry Callistemon, we always insure our parcels when we post to NZ.

Cant remember much of fuss when the Conservative party altered the GB Union Jack for their 2019 Conference etc. Became totally blue.

The thing that irritates me is that they charge a disproportionate amount for the kids' strip compared with the adults'. How does no VAT on children's clothes work here, I wonder?

But as this aspect has been mentioned, I'd like to make it clear that my GS, and no doubt maddyone's and others', neither demands nor expects a new football kit. If we have the available money to make a child happy, then what is wrong?
Some young children are as passionate about football as others are about horse riding, playing instruments, canoeing or tennis etc. In the bigger picture, £100 on some football kit is actually quite a cheap outlay.

Yes, riding lessons? How much?? 😯
Then the kit to go with that
Music lessons - we've been through it all 🎻🎷🎸 Ear defenders.
Dancing (and the costumes)
Other sports too

In fact, football-mad DS's hobby cost far less than the DD's.

The children who are keen on the sport will most likely be playing it too, and that includes girls. Sport of all kinds should be encouraged imo.

I do think where it is wrong is that firms such as Nike are aware of this and sell the kits for exorbitant prices, knowing how keen so many children are on football and their football heroes and heroines.

It's not the first time Nike have scored an own goal, though.

Mollygo

Actually, the latest suggestion I’ve seen is to replace the 3 lions with 3pink flamingos. I dare say that would get support from **

Well in that case the French Cockerell should be replaced by a ??

Pleased to see that one of the younger players (under21?) solved the problem by turning his collar up, so the offending item was not in view!

I really didn't intend this thread to be about people's spending habits on their leisure pursuits.
But as this aspect has been mentioned, I'd like to make it clear that my GS, and no doubt maddyone's and others', neither demands nor expects a new football kit. If we have the available money to make a child happy, then what is wrong?
Some young children are as passionate about football as others are about horse riding, playing instruments, canoeing or tennis etc. In the bigger picture, £100 on some football kit is actually quite a cheap outlay.
Surely our budding young athletes deserve the same kit as the competitors who inspire them, and if a relative can treat them, all well and good. Any interest in sport should be fostered and the benefits not underrated.
As an aside, my DD trained for entry to The Royal Ballet School back in the day when Darcey Bussell was her idol. All her pointe shoes, leotards, dance bags were hoped for by her, not demanded, from the Darcey range and we bought them despite the inflated prices. The other girls in class chose similar outfits. DGS is just doing the same but in the discipline he enjoys.

Actually, the latest suggestion I’ve seen is to replace the 3 lions with 3pink flamingos. I dare say that would get support from

Thank goodness neither of my DGC are interested in football. We have none of these demands for football strip - and never have.

Callistemon21

Why not start a campaign for a new national flag, Glorianny, if you dislike it so much?
Of course, the Union flag would have to be changed too but that might be a good thing as Wales could then be represented on it with the dragon.

Then the Scots will vote to leave the Union and it will have to be altered again.

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I have never said I dislike it. I simply find it amusing.
I understand why others dislike it

Why not start a campaign for a new national flag, Glorianny, if you dislike it so much?
Of course, the Union flag would have to be changed too but that might be a good thing as Wales could then be represented on it with the dragon.

Then the Scots will vote to leave the Union and it will have to be altered again.

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Joseann

There is no alternative strip for those who want the latest England strip though Glorianny. You have to have the "playful" changed flag, not the red Cross flag. Short of cutting the motif off an old garment and stitching it over the new motif, there is no option.

There is no red cross on the 2022 strip either. In fact the common representation for England is the Three lions badge.
So it's all a bit of a storm in a teacup. An unnecessary fuss about something which wasn't there in the first place. A fitting episode for the flag which is the symbol of a saint who never saw these shores anyway.

In this case the red cross, but for some people some symbols are important they do not wish to see them used as decoration

It's not decoration
It's a national flag.

maddyone

I’ve just ordered the away kit for my ten year old grandson. I only care that it will put a smile on his little face. Ridiculous price. Ordered direct from Nike. Will be here Wednesday and then we’ll pack and send to New Zealand.

My advice is to send it tracked and signed for, you can follow its progress all the way. It doesn't cost much more, although postage is very expensive anyway.

There is no alternative strip for those who want the latest England strip though Glorianny. You have to have the "playful" changed flag, not the red Cross flag. Short of cutting the motif off an old garment and stitching it over the new motif, there is no option.

Mollygo

Glorianny.
Since you’re talking about things other than the football strip, (see your link) it seems that if something doesn’t suit others it must be changed to suit them, but not the other way round.
Re football strips, the shirts chosen have to have their favourite name on the back to have any value for the purchaser. Nike obviously have money in mind, and their playful is the latest strategy to promote sales together with collar up/collar down. Just a shame they had to mess with the England flag to do it.

I was talking about the red cross Mollygo the national flag of England which for many Muslims is regarded as unacceptable and gave an example of it being seen as unacceptable.
Now you may not like it but I fully accept that some people will find it unacceptable to wear a symbol for various reasons. In this case the red cross, but for some people some symbols are important they do not wish to see them used as decoration. I have no such beliefs but I recognise the rights of people to hold those beliefs and to abide by them. They do not of course have the right to inflict those beliefs on others.
No one is forcing anyone to buy this strip. It's just an alternative for anyone who wants something different, whatever their reasons.