Honeytrap - malevolent forces at work?

Steady on urmston, we’ll be agreeing if not careful

Well Boris didn’t eat a piece of cake and everyone calls him the worst names and is ousted. Wragg has the morals of an alley cat, and stupidity beyond belief, cowardly and gives other MPs’ contact details and is hailed as courageous. Give me a break.

He should go.

Iam64

I don’t see Wragg as a victim. He’s a fool and a traitor to give up contact details of colleagues

This. Nothing wrong with being gay, and nothing wrong with being on Grindr (if that’s what floats his boat.)

Silly and reckless sending dic-pics to a stranger though. If he’s that stupid, he probably shouldn’t be an MP.

And that would apply to anyone, regardless of party.🙄

I wonder if the way he’s being let off the hook might be because he’s a smokescreen for a bigger fish?

Having lectured his colleagues in 2022, on reporting any attempts of blackmail to the police, Wragg failed to follow his own instruction. By passing on at least 12 other people’s private phone numbers, he has compromised their privacy. He should be sacked!
A ‘fulsome’ apology is irrelevant and proof the Tories haven’t any idea of how to behave with a modicum of awareness of what PM’s promises of accountability, professionalism and integrity actually mean.

Iam64 I agree. Wragg encapulates all that is mediocre and self-indulgent in modern politicians.

I don't find it funny. I find it puerile, and there are a few teenagers close to suicide because they are threatened with exposure for doing the same thing, absolutely no joke intended.
This man is vice-chairman of the 1922 committee, a position of influence within the Tory party and close to Sunak.
One wonders...

I don’t see Wragg as a victim. He’s a fool and a traitor to give up contact details of colleagues

Grandmabatty

Homosexuality became legal in England in 1967, Scotland in 1980 and NI 1982, so not really that recent!

Indeed- not that recently! Tim Stanley in todays DT put it in perspective when he asked whether it was mandatory for Tory MPs to be fools.
William Wragg, another victim of a honeytrap so transparent, it could have been sent from a Nigerian prince. Silly Willy received a flirty message and shared some saucy pics. He was then asked to pass on contact details for fellow MPs, which he did
The photo swap is understandable (men do the stupidest things for sex). The betrayal of colleagues, less so. Some have called his apology “courageous”, but Dame Andrea Jenkyns, who also received a soliciting message, labelled the affair “unforgivable”. I’m afraid I find it all very funny

I might change the last word to “pathetic”.

Homosexuality became legal in England in 1967, Scotland in 1980 and NI 1982, so not really that recent!

As I understand it, Oscar Wilde was threatening to expose homosexuality, which of course until relatively recently was a prisonable offence.

HousePlantQueen

Sorry to lower the tone (if it's possible), but just reading Twitter/X, where someone has pointed out that William Wragg has brought new meaning to the phrase Private Members Bill 😀

😂😂

Sorry to lower the tone (if it's possible), but just reading Twitter/X, where someone has pointed out that William Wragg has brought new meaning to the phrase Private Members Bill 😀

Iam64

They may think it’s ok to pay for sex but we don’t all have to agree with them

I don't think anyone asked you to.

They may think it’s ok to pay for sex but we don’t all have to agree with them

Presumably on a site like Grindr, users know what they are getting into, and sharing intimate pictures is the norm. To my mind that’s quite different to the story Luke Evans and others have portrayed of an unsolicited ‘view once’ picture coming up on WhatsApp.

I remember hearing that the local brothel was always busier on a Thursday evening. The reason being that men drove their wives into town to go late night shopping, dropped them off saying they would have a drink somewhere, popped into the brothel for a quickie, and then picked up the wife.
Quite ordinary nice men think it is OK to pay for sex.

I should have made myself clearer. When I spoke of flashers in my last post I was not referring to men who hide in bushes and take every opportunity to flash all and sundry. That is in itself an act of violence. I was thinking more of those who take pictures of their dicks and send them to people who are willing to receive them or send them to websites that welcome them.

Indecent exposure is not consensual, often causes real de stress to victims and often is a gateway to more serious offending.
It’s known as ‘using’ prostitutes because that’s what it is. Sec work is dangerous

Flashing is not consensual and the same applies to those who buy prostitutes, it's the purchase of consent, I would never vote for a party that condones it in any form. The rates of a variety of crimes are higher amongst those who buy women/men than those who dont. We should treat those 'lower level' behaviours with appropriate seriousness.

What I can never understand about these politicians involved in sex scandals is why they cannot control themselves and behave with dignity. Surely if your job puts you in a position of trust and the glare of publicity your first thought is to protect your reputation and position not to exchange nude pics/ romp with drugs/ harass staff. It cannot be that difficult surely??

Galaxy Men use prostitutes for all manner of reasons - and I am in no way condoning their actions. And, yes, a proportion are violent and unpleasant people, probably a larger proportion than among men who do not use them.

But because men who use violence against women often start on a small scale with flashing, it doesn't follow that men who flash inevitably become violent against women.

The Times is reporting at least 7 people including a Labour MP, were sent these Wots app messages plus a Journalist, all saying a similar message.
I still doubt if this is a teenager in their bedroom, if you send to a Journalist you really want to put the cat amongst the Pigeons.

Men often arent ashamed for using prostitutes, that just indicates a deeper unpleasantness. It's a red flag like 'flashing' found in many who progress to violence against women.