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The matter of Angela Rayner's house sale isn't going away.....

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LovesBach Fri 12-Apr-24 14:58:54

Angela Rayner is now to be investigated for breaking electoral law. It seems she has said that she married, and then lived in her ex council house for the next four years, while her husband lived in his nearby ex council house with her brother. Neighbours at her address said that her brother lived in her house alone, and that he referred to her as his landlady. This issue seems to be getting bigger by the day - surely electoral rolls show where people are registered to vote, and this should clarify the matter.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 15:17:34

Interesting. Thanks Urms.

Urmstongran Wed 17-Apr-24 15:14:00

The Telegraph today:

“ Police are investigating Angela Rayner over council tax fraud claims alongside possible electoral offences, with around a dozen officers assigned to the case.

On Tuesday, Stephen Watson, the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police (GMP), said there were “a number of assertions knocking about” that the force would “get to the bottom of”.

Stockport council is understood to have been assessing correspondence from James Daly, the Conservative deputy chairman, about what Ms Rayner’s council tax arrangements were.”

Louella12 Wed 17-Apr-24 14:33:50

I like Angela. And that's all I have to say.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 14:16:05

‘Rock bottom and still drilling’. GSM

I am not there by speaking of the bedroom and bathroom’ , Angela Rayner has not been charged

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 12:52:44

Anniebach

Did he view the bedrooms and bathroom?

What’s that saying of yours about rock bottom Annie?

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 12:27:41

"Stephen Watson, the chief constable of GMP, noted that the decision on Friday to launch a formal investigation “does not imply” the information provided to police by James Daly, the deputy chair of the Conservative party, “gives us any hard and fast evidence”."

Yesterdays guardian www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/angela-rayner-police-investigation-gmp

growstuff Wed 17-Apr-24 12:23:02

Just read about the former aide's book on Amazon:

"Sometime in the future…Politics clashes with the personal during a tumultuous week at the Labour Party’s Annual Conference in Manchester. Abi Jeffers fancies her chances of becoming Labour's first woman Leader, but hot favourite Shadow Chancellor, Derek Woods stands in her way. His Special Adviser, Jack Marsden meanwhile is the unwitting victim of ex-partner Sandra Clinton's thirst for vengeance. As the battle for power unfolds in the midst of a personal vendetta, rival SpAds spin and plot under the watchful eye of tabloid journalist Ray McManus. Events soon spiral out of control, with a looming expenses scandal, sex, betrayal and revenge triggering tragic consequences. This explosive political thriller tells the inside story of a shocking week at a Labour Party Conference. After all, a week is a long time in politics... "

Fact or fiction?

This aide took Angela Rayner to an employment tribunal in 2018, citing disability discrimination when he was sacked. I don't suppose he bears a grudge or anything. hmm

MayBee70 Wed 17-Apr-24 12:22:08

The people that are hounding Rayner over the matter of a few thousand pounds are, I believe, multi millionaires, one of whom, I believe, had non dom status.

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 12:19:38

Anniebach

Did he view the bedrooms and bathroom?

Nice one Annie...

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 12:19:01

Anniebach

Unbelievable, again thank you TinSoldier

The Daly clip says it all - he piles on allegations not naming any. I'm sure there are some questions to be answered but it's the way its being handled and seized upon/hints dropped/not answered that make me agree - its a smear campaign.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 12:11:02

Did he view the bedrooms and bathroom?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 11:41:29

I read the aide’s story in the Sunday Times. He wasn’t purporting to say what AR’s living arrangements were from 2010 onwards. He said he had to visit her at home on one occasion and ‘home’ was her husband’s house - she arrived after he did and said it was ‘good to be home’. She was, he said, clearly living there.

I have noticed in several reports that she refers to the house she owned as here ‘principal property’. Of course it was, as it was the only property she owned. However it was not, for some time, her ‘principal private residence’ and that is what is relevant for the purposes of the current investigations of which we know. Her words are, to my mind, very carefully chosen.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 11:02:39

Unbelievable, again thank you TinSoldier

TinSoldier Wed 17-Apr-24 10:53:32

According to The Telegraph: Angela Rayner is being investigated over multiple allegations, the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police has implied. Stephen Watson said there were "a number of assertions knocking about", and the force would "get to the bottom" of them.

The Guardian reports:

Stephen Watson, the chief constable of GMP, noted that the decision to launch a formal investigation on Friday “does not imply” the information provided to police by James Daly, the deputy chair of the Conservative party, “gives us any hard and fast evidence”.

On Monday's BBC Politics Live, James Daley MP was asked three times by Jo Coburn what further allegations he had made but he refused repeatedly to say. One might assume that having being given some bullets to fire by his boss Richard Holden - pusher of the Beergate nonsense but who doesn’t want egg on his face again - he’s worrying he might have to carry the can in a libel case.

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1779867745774977279

The DM report a story from a former aide who, based on one visit to Mark Rayner’s property in the summer of 2014, is apparently able to say what living arangements the couple had from 2010 onwards.

This is the aide who left under mysterious circumstances and then wrote a thriller novel basing his central character on Angela Rayner in which she murders the shadow chancellor. You couldn’t make it up - except that he has. Someone else who has been cashing in and now doing so again.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 10:37:34

It seems to be more than just CGT on the house sale - that is a single issue.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 10:36:55

Suggests or are investigating?

Iam64 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:33:47

It’s tax - did she And should she have paid capital gains on the house sale. In comparison with Hunt - well there is no comparison. It does feel like a witch hunt - obviously police must investigate but the timing worries me.
It’s like the Durham beer - investigations running along local elections

Primrose53 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:32:28

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/angela-rayner-manchester-police-investigation-b2529840.html

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 10:31:39

‘Financial matters’ apparently Wyllow.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 10:28:48

Just looked on line, some reports say ‘suggest more investigations will take place’

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:25:17

What are the new ones

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 10:22:54

Thank you GSM

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 10:21:29

The police.

Anniebach Wed 17-Apr-24 10:20:26

Investigated by whom ?

Primrose53 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:12:21

Said on the news last night that AR is being investigated for several financial matters now.