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Bondi attack.

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nanna8 Sat 13-Apr-24 09:16:34

Just one man with a knife has caused absolute chaos, stabbing several people including a 9 month old baby. Thanks goodness the police shot him and didn’t muck around as they have in some previous incidents. A lot of people assisting. We don’t expect this here, it doesn’t happen often. We are all in shock.

ronib Sun 14-Apr-24 09:07:21

Allsorts how do you know that medication was dished out and not taken?
If I was a member of a family killed in the shopping mall, I imagine my anger and grief would not allow me to stay silent. Something needs to change.

Allsorts Sun 14-Apr-24 08:52:21

I think you should have reported that very frightening incident R Sue, what would have happened if that were a child.
How dreadful for all those who lost their lives in Australia, my sympathies are with the victims and families, if it is true and it’s down to lack of mental health care, it's no good dishing out medication when the patient does not take it. It sounds as if it’s as bad there as here regarding care in the community.
The bravery of others and that policewoman is fantastic. There’s more good than bad.

ronib Sun 14-Apr-24 08:39:54

sodapop that is for Australia to resolve.

sodapop Sun 14-Apr-24 08:33:16

Many mental health conditions are treatable as you say ronib but one of the problems is ensuring that the patient continues to take their medication/treatment. There are not enough staff or facilities for this.

ronib Sun 14-Apr-24 08:25:07

Schizophrenia has been known about as a treatable medical condition for many years. It is time the world recognised this and other mental health illnesses and learned how to deal with them.

lemsip Sun 14-Apr-24 08:24:09

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/13/five-killed-sydney-bondi-shopping-centre-stabbing-live-baby/
The man who killed six people at a Sydney shopping centre was known to be suffering with mental health issues and have a fascination with weapons.

Police on Sunday identified the attacker as Joel Cauchi, a 40-year-old who had recently moved from Queensland to Sydney where he had been homeless.

Cauchi had lived with schizophrenia and had used drugs including methamphetamine and psychedelics, investigators believe. He did not have a criminal history in his home state but had been known to authorities because of his struggle

RunaroundSue Sun 14-Apr-24 06:52:16

Only a few weeks ago I was in town and there were a few mentally handicapped people being taken out by their care home helpers. As I was walking along the pavement, a man, who was with his carer, threw out his arm and grabbed me by the throat and would not let go. His carer was struggling to make him let go but he just hung on to my throat tightly. It took two more carers to rush to help us and to unclench his hand from around my throat. They just apologised and I left it at that but when I look back, this man could have really hurt me and I wondered later if I should have reported the incident to the police but by then it was too late.

The main problem was that each mental patient only had one carer with them and the other two carers had to leave their patients to help me.

I had a red mark around my throat the day after but no pain. It all happened so fast that I never saw it coming and that is how easy it is for someone walking past to inflict an injury on you.

RunaroundSue Sun 14-Apr-24 06:38:23

In the early 1960's, I was 17 years old and walking home from work when I saw a lady walking on the pavement and a man running up behind her and start stabbing her in the back. A lot of people rushed to help her and the man was arrested. I have no idea if she lived or died because in those days we only had newspapers and the basic tv news so I had no idea what happened after.

It proves there was, is and always will be violence but in this era it is escalating to the point that thugs are killing and trying to kill people they do not even know.

BlueBelle Sun 14-Apr-24 04:20:51

Nanna8 then if that’s the real story and not a supposition it is what I thought it could be
Mental health is such a complex issue The help here is not as it should be either, far too little money spent on it, far too few beds, far too many people needing help
I have a friend also schizophrenic the nicest person you could meet but when her meds stopped helping her recently she was lying in the street howling like an animal she’s now on new medication and after 6 months in a hospital she is back to her old self

The man was probable seeing images and had no idea he was hurting real people
So terribly sad all round

nanna8 Sun 14-Apr-24 03:02:11

He was a schizophrenic man. The help for people with mental health issues is very poor here. He was showing signs of weirdness before this incident but of course no one intervened.

growstuff Sat 13-Apr-24 23:42:51

Snap Bluebelle (Sorry, I hadn't seen your post.)

growstuff Sat 13-Apr-24 23:42:09

karmalady

very brave people involved, including the ones who ran behind the woman police officer and the man with a pole on the escalator, confronting the knifeman. Seems as though many countries are being infiltrated by people who have very violent tendencies

How do you know that this man wasn't a non-infiltrating Australian? I didn't think he'd been officially named yet.

Witzend Sat 13-Apr-24 17:32:54

So awful. Those poor people and their families.

BlueBelle Sat 13-Apr-24 17:30:44

How do you know the country has been ‘infiltrated’ Karmalady?
I thought at this stage they hadn’t said who he was or where, if anywhere, he was from just that he was a 40 years old male and known to the police

Callistemon21 Sat 13-Apr-24 16:58:42

karmalady

very brave people involved, including the ones who ran behind the woman police officer and the man with a pole on the escalator, confronting the knifeman. Seems as though many countries are being infiltrated by people who have very violent tendencies

It has been stated that, as far as the police are aware, this was not terrorist-related.

Yes, thank goodness for those brave people who run towards danger to try to stop it.

karmalady Sat 13-Apr-24 16:48:51

very brave people involved, including the ones who ran behind the woman police officer and the man with a pole on the escalator, confronting the knifeman. Seems as though many countries are being infiltrated by people who have very violent tendencies

Joseann Sat 13-Apr-24 15:42:35

Awful.
Thoughts go out to the victims and their families.

Frenchgalinspain Sat 13-Apr-24 12:55:59

Oh my. Horrid news.

So sorry to hear.

Speedy recovery wishes to all those injured in this tragedy.

I am pleased to hear the Police Officer eliminated the murderer.

So so sad.

Moonwatcher1904 Sat 13-Apr-24 12:51:35

Well said Georgesgran.

Georgesgran Sat 13-Apr-24 12:46:11

I’ve just seen it on TV news.
The baby’s mother is one of the fatalities.
Give that Police Officer a medal!

BlueBelle Sat 13-Apr-24 12:33:49

I have a grandaughter out there travelling and working She’s ok

Callistemon21 Sat 13-Apr-24 12:32:00

Pray those who are in hospital recover and so sad for the families of the deceased.

We are thinking of all of them
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nanna8 Sat 13-Apr-24 12:30:04

It was a lone attacker. Lots of videos of him running around with a huge knife. He was shot dead, thankfully, after coming towards the policewoman with the knife. The shopkeepers hid people and a couple of shoppers rendered first aid to the woman and baby. So far 5 have died. Horrible situation, he looked as though he was drugged up just running around the centre. Pray those who are in hospital recover and so sad for the families of the deceased.

tickingbird Sat 13-Apr-24 12:13:04

My thoughts are with the deceased and the other injured victims. I’m glad the attacker is dead.

Cabowich Sat 13-Apr-24 12:09:25

My son's out there. I contacted him as soon as I saw the headlines. He and his family are all OK, thank goodness, but I had to tell him what was going on - he hadn't heard about it! He's never been a news-watcher - not sure whether that's a good thing or not.