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Brussels police ordered to attend a right wing conference attended by Braverman and Farage

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Apr-24 14:54:09

Orban is also in attendance.

The police are allowing no one else to enter the premises.

Listening to Farage there is a worrying paper-thin line between his rhetoric and 1930s propaganda.

No wonder the authorities are worried.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 16:14:42

GrannyGravy13

I am probably one of the few GN members who has met Nigel Farage.

In person he is extremely knowledgeable, an excellent communicator with impeccable manners.

I do not agree with all of his views, then again I do not agree with all of any of the current crop of politicians or political parties views.

And long may your attitude continue Gg13

Question, and seek answer's that's all we can do.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 16:11:38

I have seen it for myself Namsnanny. I would liken it to the adoration of Trump.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 16:10:00

Germanshepherdsmum

Farage has his fans. It is arguable that some are sufficiently blindsided by his rhetoric, which chimes with their own views, that they don’t see how devious and dangerous he is.

Again Gsm arrogant of you to think you know how other people think and make decisions for themselves.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 16:08:35

Namsnanny

Galaxy

I am not sure how many times it needs to be shown that when freedom of speech is threatened those impacted the most are minorities and the vulnerable in our society.
What fools they are.

what fools they are ....

and when those fools are in positions of power we all suffer.

MayBee70 I acknowledged I endorsed the shutting down of free speech by the state as a foolish endeavor.
Therefore the people or person who took this action are the fools.
Especially when in the light of historical facts. Such as the minorities and vulnerable are always the ones who pay the price first last and hardest.

Notwithstanding we all will suffer, maybe you too, if we let issues like this slide.

Made me laugh earlier on when I heard that even the disillusioned Owen Jones disagreed with shutting this event down grin.

Anyway, the Belgium courts have ruled in favour of allowing it to continue.

I think on balance it was worth all the fuss, just to see that sanity still does reign.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 15:34:14

Farage has his fans. It is arguable that some are sufficiently blindsided by his rhetoric, which chimes with their own views, that they don’t see how devious and dangerous he is.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 15:21:30

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree with MayBee. Her statement is not arrogant. He is a devious man who I wouldn’t want to see involved in politics again.

Perhaps I didn't express myself as clearly as I could have Gsm

It is arrogant to suppose that Mb has the competence to realize who or what NF is, but others haven't.

Again though, this isn't about individual people, it is about the arrogance of a Mayor using the state to implement his preferences.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 17-Apr-24 15:07:20

I am probably one of the few GN members who has met Nigel Farage.

In person he is extremely knowledgeable, an excellent communicator with impeccable manners.

I do not agree with all of his views, then again I do not agree with all of any of the current crop of politicians or political parties views.

MayBee70 Wed 17-Apr-24 15:02:58

Namsnanny

MayBee70

If only people would realise how devious Farage is. He terrifies as much as disgusts me.

Perhaps you mean your comments to be helpful MayBee70?No doubt you do.

But do you realize your comment above is very arrogant?

You think you know better than those who disagree with you.
If only you could get them to see things the way you do.
The inference is you have a better understanding of, in this case NF.

May be you didn't mean it to come across in that way, but essentially this is what the opposition always says.

The same argument could be put to you, in reverse could it not?

Frankly I change or update things I think as and when.

Anyway, I don't see this unlawful closure of a conference as about NF.
It's about the blurring of the lines of lawful behaviour by those who purport to govern us.

Freedom of speech and action within the confines of the law incontrovertible so far as I'm concerned.

But you’re the one that has said some people are fools…

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 14:57:33

Nobody suggested he was, did they?

Shinamae Wed 17-Apr-24 14:55:21

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree with MayBee. Her statement is not arrogant. He is a devious man who I wouldn’t want to see involved in politics again.

So Farage is the only devious man in politics is he? 🙄

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 14:51:33

I agree with MayBee. Her statement is not arrogant. He is a devious man who I wouldn’t want to see involved in politics again.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 14:48:08

MayBee70

If only people would realise how devious Farage is. He terrifies as much as disgusts me.

Perhaps you mean your comments to be helpful MayBee70?No doubt you do.

But do you realize your comment above is very arrogant?

You think you know better than those who disagree with you.
If only you could get them to see things the way you do.
The inference is you have a better understanding of, in this case NF.

May be you didn't mean it to come across in that way, but essentially this is what the opposition always says.

The same argument could be put to you, in reverse could it not?

Frankly I change or update things I think as and when.

Anyway, I don't see this unlawful closure of a conference as about NF.
It's about the blurring of the lines of lawful behaviour by those who purport to govern us.

Freedom of speech and action within the confines of the law incontrovertible so far as I'm concerned.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 17-Apr-24 13:50:23

Cossy

Mt61

“Germanshepherdsmum
I would be considered right wing and I consider him far right.
I am right wing but the tories are more to the left these days”

You have to be kidding Mt61

Maybe Mt61 is one of those people who get confused between left and right. 😁

tickingbird Wed 17-Apr-24 13:45:28

biglouis

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Seems like there’s a few on here with much in common with the mayor of Brussels!

Cossy Wed 17-Apr-24 13:38:29

Mt61

“Germanshepherdsmum
I would be considered right wing and I consider him far right.
I am right wing but the tories are more to the left these days”

You have to be kidding Mt61

Shinamae Wed 17-Apr-24 13:37:34

MayBee70

Maybe Hitlers party would never had risen to power if more people had realised what their long term aims were?

Wow,really comparing Farage to hitler? 😮

Shinamae Wed 17-Apr-24 13:35:23

JudyBloom

This is a disgrace, Nigel Farage is NOT far right, they just want people to believe he is - as usual, if views don't fit the narrative you get banned - this is against Democracy and another attack on free speech. There is nothing to fear from Nigel, he believes in free speech and our country having it's own rules.

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Freya5 Wed 17-Apr-24 13:30:38

Grantanow

If the Mayor of Brussels hadn't risen to the bait and sent in the police no-one would have paid attention to this bunch of right wing ranters.

The Mayor has his own agenda, he supports Tehran, the mayor of such is a mate. So ok to entertain leaders from a terrorist funding country . Him and his coppers acted like the Gestapo in 1930 Germany.

biglouis Wed 17-Apr-24 13:00:08

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Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 12:38:22

Attention seeking with little substance.

wiki
"Does Farage get an EU pension?
The Brexit divorce bill includes pensions for UK MEPs. Nigel Farage will receive £73,000 a year pension, free private healthcare for his whole family for life plus a £157,000 golden handshake. He doesn't want the UK to pay the EU, but appears to be happy for the EU to pay him."

Also: "Farage has continued to have fees paid to him via a limited company, Thorn in the Side Ltd." (Farrage's media company

MayBee70 Wed 17-Apr-24 11:33:11

If only people would realise how devious Farage is. He terrifies as much as disgusts me.

Namsnanny Wed 17-Apr-24 10:59:54

Who extended the boundries of their power to shut someone who expressed views they didn't like?

Who used the state to make this happen?

They're the real demons here.

MaizieD Wed 17-Apr-24 10:35:49

Galaxy

I am not sure how many times it needs to be shown that when freedom of speech is threatened those impacted the most are minorities and the vulnerable in our society.
What fools they are.

But the people the NatCons are demonising are minorities and the vulnerable.

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:34:49

I agree. The picture/short videos in the Mail shows Farage clearly delighted to have a chance to say how dreadful it all was etc etc, he practically danced across the platform in the limelight.

Better to let them go ahead but monitor for any illegal (ie hate speech)

MayBee70 Wed 17-Apr-24 10:33:07

Maybe Hitlers party would never had risen to power if more people had realised what their long term aims were?