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Canary Islanders tell Brits to go home.

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lemsip Sat 20-Apr-24 14:27:10

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13330951/Canary-Islanders-protest-against-mass-tourism-freeze-holidaymakers-graffiti-Brits-Tourists.htmlThousands of

Canary Islanders take to the streets to protest against mass tourism and call for freeze on holidaymakers after graffiti told Brits: 'Tourists go home

oh dear. this has been on all news outlets.

Lilyflower Tue 23-Apr-24 13:26:10

How do you know what's in a newspaper if you 'don't read it ever'? Asking for a friend.

Lilyflower Tue 23-Apr-24 13:24:35

The problem with an antipathy to a market solution to home ownership - if you can afford it you can buy it - is that alternatives are authoritarian.

Do you want an official telling you where you have been allocated a poky flat?

Also, the presumption here is that if you are lucky enough to be born in a beautiful seaside town you have a right to live in it all your life. So if you are born in St Ives, bingo! However, if you originate from the sixtieth floor of a high rise, there you are stuck forever. This seems inherently more unfair than a system where law and the pursuit of capital through aspiration and endeavour enable anyone who wants to do so to strive and choose where they want to buy.

In the past it was always the case that youngsters struck out from home to make their fortune and, if they made some money, and wanted to, they could return home and buy.

If you read your eighteenth and nineteenth century novels, access to homes was a primary concern for everyone. Try some Thomas Hardy, Dickens, the Brontes or Jane Austen. It will cure the modern sense of entitlement behind the idea that, 'if I have children here in this rural/coastal idyll they must be housed on my doorstep.'

Dinahmo Tue 23-Apr-24 12:10:30

nanna8

What I think should be done is to put a limit on the number of houses anyone can own( with the exception of owners of flats etc in multi storey buildings). Either that or make multiple houseowners pay double the normal costs. That’d fix the royals for a start !

Why the exception for people in apartment blocks? Many of those will be holiday lets.

PinkCosmos Tue 23-Apr-24 12:05:34

I live in a tourist destination with a large lovely beach.

One of the main gripes is that tourists come in for the day, bring a picnic and sit on the beach. They don't go into the town and spend money in a cafe. They don't stay overnight. When they leave, they leave all of their rubbish behind. Therefore, the local council have to put in bigger bins and need staff to empty them two or three times a day in the season.

Visitors have also left disposable barbeques buried in the sand and put them in the bin which has then set on fire.

I agree about the ABnB's. People with this type of accommodation need to be registered in some way so that they met the same standards that hotels and guest house have to meet.

Joseann Tue 23-Apr-24 11:40:02

Don't worry, tomorrow there'll be a nutritionist saying don't touch coffee ever! I'm having one quickly now before the article comes out.

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 10:21:35

Oh, I got as far as advice from an American nutritionist on what to eat and not eat. She looks about 12 (but that could be due to her healthy diet).
And says don't touch alcohol ever!

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 10:15:40

Primrose53

Callistemon21

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
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I'm going to have a look ......

Primrose53 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:59:31

Callistemon21

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:35:19

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
😂

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:33:19

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

How about reading about it in The Guardian, The Independent, the Irish Independent, Wales Online, Reuters, or watching it on Sky News, Al Jazeera, BBC, Euronews?

Or you could carry on sticking your head in the sand just because the Daily Mail reported it as well.

The choice is yours.

Amalegra Tue 23-Apr-24 09:24:03

This reaction against mass tourism and its impact on locals seems to be gaining ground in Europe and other parts of the world. Here in the UK too there is kickback against over tourism despite the economic benefits it may bring to the local economy. I am thinking about Cornwall and Devon in particular as I come from Cornwall although live in Dorset now. House prices have rocketed in these areas due to second homes, holiday lets, AirB’nB etc. Locals can’t afford to buy, few rentals and they are extortionately priced. Perhaps people should not be so fixated on their holidays to the latest fashionable locations and when they are there behave with more consideration for the people whose home it is.

petra Tue 23-Apr-24 08:14:14

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

Ikiesgranma Tue 23-Apr-24 08:07:26

*A couple of years ago. Not weeks.

Ikiesgranma Tue 23-Apr-24 08:06:27

We visited Orkny from a cruise ship a couple of weeks ago. We had a private tour with just four of us and the driver/guide. We ate on the island and bought some souvenirs. We are going to Fuertaventura tomorrow and are going self catering. I will not be cooking so we will eat at local restaurants and bars. We were on Lanzarote in January and I didn’t feel any animosity towards us. Last year we stayed in the Lake District and every where was packed with people. It must be upsetting and frustrating for the locals but I’m sure that without the tourists the many hotels, restaurants and shops would suffer financially.

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 23-Apr-24 07:55:04

In the case of the Canary Islands it’s an easy fix.

Stop the flights going in.

There’s probably 1 flight from the U.K. (In the day) every few minutes, in and out of the airports.
Plus flights from the rest of Europe.

Cut back on the flights allowed in and you will cut the number of tourists who stay on the Islands. Easy.

Then you only have the cruise ships, they disgorge thousands of sight seers on any one day, apparently they don’t spend much money but at least they don’t stay overnight.

Katie59 Tue 23-Apr-24 07:15:15

Tamayra

Happening here in our little town on East Coast Australia
So many holiday homes & Air BNB Locals can’t find housing
It’s very sad as lots of the properties sit empty thro the non tourist months.

In Queensland in January we avoided the Sunshine Coast and stayed further north at Hervey Bay a lovely developing resort, no high rise most development seemed to be retirement homes. We did stay in Airbnb, a retired couple with an annex in a quiet area, I see nothing wrong with that, an older couple contributing to the local economy

nanna8 Tue 23-Apr-24 05:23:50

What I think should be done is to put a limit on the number of houses anyone can own( with the exception of owners of flats etc in multi storey buildings). Either that or make multiple houseowners pay double the normal costs. That’d fix the royals for a start !

RVK1CR Tue 23-Apr-24 04:38:47

BlueBelle

There were lots of anti tourist placards and posters in Barcelona when I was there last year Lots of complaining that the houses are all being bought to turn into AB&B s and rendering the locals unable to buy any
They have a point

Agree, the government there should impose a limit on the number of rentals, and limit the amount that can be charged. That way the locals would have a chance to own a home. It happens in the uk when "rich" folk buy up properties to turn them to airb&b and then ordinary locals cannot afford a home. Areas should have a quota of rentals, give the locals a chance.

Esmay Tue 23-Apr-24 03:31:51

It comes as a shock when we discover that we aren't appreciated .

I experienced this in Portugal about 30 years ago .
The locals regarded the local Brits with disdain .
One British couple were accepted by them and very popular as they made an effort to socialise with the locals inviting them round for lunch and dinner - even if they struggled with the language .
The locals also saw that they weren't that well off and had to live in a caravan for over two years whilst their villa was being built - the husband doing as much of the work as he could and his wife cleaning to make ends meet .
Their way of life contrasted with the unfriendly , comparatively wealthy , highly critical of the locals other Brits !

I had thought of buying and restoring an old farmhouse and keeping the original orchards , but unable to live there for most of the year - I changed my mind .

Tamayra Tue 23-Apr-24 02:31:45

Happening here in our little town on East Coast Australia
So many holiday homes & Air BNB Locals can’t find housing
It’s very sad as lots of the properties sit empty thro the non tourist months.

KathrynP Mon 22-Apr-24 23:24:33

I came back from Gran Canaria today although I knew of the demos in Tenerife and other Canary Islands I didn’t see any “Go Home Tourist” signs or any animosity., in fact the Canarians were most hospitable and helpful. We were of course adding to their coffers. We use a Spanish hotel chain. A young friend lives over there now and she is saving for a house but is not allowed to buy and live in the cheaper apartments but can buy and let it. Sounds ridiculous. I think there must be a great strain on their medical services as any UK resident can still walk in to a local clinic and be treated free of charge provided you have a EHIC or the new equivalent. I was surprised that continued post Brexit.
I live in a well known Devon seaside town and prices are very high here. People complain about the amount of 2nd home and holiday homes in the town but the two very good holiday let houses opposite my home have been up for sale for over a year and are just not selling therefore they are vacant so no one is contributing to the local economy they just lay empty. I really don’t know what the answer is.

swampy1961 Mon 22-Apr-24 22:08:14

We holidayed in Tenerife last October and witnessed at first hand just what the local people are having to deal with. Our hotel was B&B with all rooms having basic cooking facilities - not that we cook at all. Just brew up coffee and tea and a few cocktails in our room. We prefer to spend our money to benefit the local businesses and try local restaurants and local foods.
But I digress - our hotel had around 40% of its rooms rented out to locals who paid rent as tenants. Now I don't have a problem with that in general but in our case it meant that as a 'holiday' hotel it was distinctly lacking a holiday vibe. There was a bar open during the day but once it hit 5 o'clock there was no evening bar, entertainment or anything which then forced us to seek these things outside the hotel and because of the 'residents' - it was extremely quiet in the evenings.
Perhaps some of these developers need to rethink their strategy and provide accommodation for the locals. If local residents are turning their properties over to airbnb then their local governments need to clamp down on this rather than price their countrymen out of their jobs and homes.

Callistemon21 Mon 22-Apr-24 22:07:33

Dinahmo

Grammaretto

It's not new either.
I can remember the 1970s when cottages in Wales owned by English people as 2nd homes were being burned down.
We were holidaying there, staying in a B&B (not an airbnb) when a cottage nearby was set alight.

I have never wanted a second home even if it was affordable .

We used to visit Wales regularly in the late 60s and early 70s. specifically Pembrokeshire and Cardigan. The English were buying up what I called do-uppables whilst the Welsh were leaving their old homes for something new. Furthermore it was Welsh people themselves who were selling their wrecks.

Yes, I posted above about friends who bought a dilapidated old forestry cottage in Wales - no locals would have bought it as a home but they restored it, using local labour, buying their food locally, supporting local businesses whenever they went there.

They weren't flying off on foreign holidays to Spain or the Canaries, either!

Primrose53 Mon 22-Apr-24 22:01:20

I meant to say I just read that Mallorca is now protesting.

Primrose53 Mon 22-Apr-24 22:00:10

As others have said, it was the same in Wales years ago. Approx 1976-79 we camped at St David’s in Pembrokeshire. As soon as we crossed the border into Wales there were signs everywhere, on houses, bridges, fences etc. We didn’t feel very welcome but we spent a lot of money on site fees, food, drink, fuel, meals out etc.