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Canary Islanders tell Brits to go home.

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lemsip Sat 20-Apr-24 14:27:10

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13330951/Canary-Islanders-protest-against-mass-tourism-freeze-holidaymakers-graffiti-Brits-Tourists.htmlThousands of

Canary Islanders take to the streets to protest against mass tourism and call for freeze on holidaymakers after graffiti told Brits: 'Tourists go home

oh dear. this has been on all news outlets.

Katie59 Tue 23-Apr-24 07:15:15

Tamayra

Happening here in our little town on East Coast Australia
So many holiday homes & Air BNB Locals can’t find housing
It’s very sad as lots of the properties sit empty thro the non tourist months.

In Queensland in January we avoided the Sunshine Coast and stayed further north at Hervey Bay a lovely developing resort, no high rise most development seemed to be retirement homes. We did stay in Airbnb, a retired couple with an annex in a quiet area, I see nothing wrong with that, an older couple contributing to the local economy

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 23-Apr-24 07:55:04

In the case of the Canary Islands it’s an easy fix.

Stop the flights going in.

There’s probably 1 flight from the U.K. (In the day) every few minutes, in and out of the airports.
Plus flights from the rest of Europe.

Cut back on the flights allowed in and you will cut the number of tourists who stay on the Islands. Easy.

Then you only have the cruise ships, they disgorge thousands of sight seers on any one day, apparently they don’t spend much money but at least they don’t stay overnight.

Ikiesgranma Tue 23-Apr-24 08:06:27

We visited Orkny from a cruise ship a couple of weeks ago. We had a private tour with just four of us and the driver/guide. We ate on the island and bought some souvenirs. We are going to Fuertaventura tomorrow and are going self catering. I will not be cooking so we will eat at local restaurants and bars. We were on Lanzarote in January and I didn’t feel any animosity towards us. Last year we stayed in the Lake District and every where was packed with people. It must be upsetting and frustrating for the locals but I’m sure that without the tourists the many hotels, restaurants and shops would suffer financially.

Ikiesgranma Tue 23-Apr-24 08:07:26

*A couple of years ago. Not weeks.

petra Tue 23-Apr-24 08:14:14

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

Amalegra Tue 23-Apr-24 09:24:03

This reaction against mass tourism and its impact on locals seems to be gaining ground in Europe and other parts of the world. Here in the UK too there is kickback against over tourism despite the economic benefits it may bring to the local economy. I am thinking about Cornwall and Devon in particular as I come from Cornwall although live in Dorset now. House prices have rocketed in these areas due to second homes, holiday lets, AirB’nB etc. Locals can’t afford to buy, few rentals and they are extortionately priced. Perhaps people should not be so fixated on their holidays to the latest fashionable locations and when they are there behave with more consideration for the people whose home it is.

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:33:19

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

How about reading about it in The Guardian, The Independent, the Irish Independent, Wales Online, Reuters, or watching it on Sky News, Al Jazeera, BBC, Euronews?

Or you could carry on sticking your head in the sand just because the Daily Mail reported it as well.

The choice is yours.

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:35:19

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
😂

Primrose53 Tue 23-Apr-24 09:59:31

Callistemon21

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 10:15:40

Primrose53

Callistemon21

petra

Etoile2701

I don't read the Daily Mail EVER! It is full of articles like that. Sheer unadulterated sensationalist rubbish.

The article may not be in the format you wish to read it but it doesn’t make it any less truthful.

These types of remarks that I see on GN make me want to read the Daily Mail more often
😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm going to have a look ......

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 10:21:35

Oh, I got as far as advice from an American nutritionist on what to eat and not eat. She looks about 12 (but that could be due to her healthy diet).
And says don't touch alcohol ever!

Joseann Tue 23-Apr-24 11:40:02

Don't worry, tomorrow there'll be a nutritionist saying don't touch coffee ever! I'm having one quickly now before the article comes out.

PinkCosmos Tue 23-Apr-24 12:05:34

I live in a tourist destination with a large lovely beach.

One of the main gripes is that tourists come in for the day, bring a picnic and sit on the beach. They don't go into the town and spend money in a cafe. They don't stay overnight. When they leave, they leave all of their rubbish behind. Therefore, the local council have to put in bigger bins and need staff to empty them two or three times a day in the season.

Visitors have also left disposable barbeques buried in the sand and put them in the bin which has then set on fire.

I agree about the ABnB's. People with this type of accommodation need to be registered in some way so that they met the same standards that hotels and guest house have to meet.

Dinahmo Tue 23-Apr-24 12:10:30

nanna8

What I think should be done is to put a limit on the number of houses anyone can own( with the exception of owners of flats etc in multi storey buildings). Either that or make multiple houseowners pay double the normal costs. That’d fix the royals for a start !

Why the exception for people in apartment blocks? Many of those will be holiday lets.

Lilyflower Tue 23-Apr-24 13:24:35

The problem with an antipathy to a market solution to home ownership - if you can afford it you can buy it - is that alternatives are authoritarian.

Do you want an official telling you where you have been allocated a poky flat?

Also, the presumption here is that if you are lucky enough to be born in a beautiful seaside town you have a right to live in it all your life. So if you are born in St Ives, bingo! However, if you originate from the sixtieth floor of a high rise, there you are stuck forever. This seems inherently more unfair than a system where law and the pursuit of capital through aspiration and endeavour enable anyone who wants to do so to strive and choose where they want to buy.

In the past it was always the case that youngsters struck out from home to make their fortune and, if they made some money, and wanted to, they could return home and buy.

If you read your eighteenth and nineteenth century novels, access to homes was a primary concern for everyone. Try some Thomas Hardy, Dickens, the Brontes or Jane Austen. It will cure the modern sense of entitlement behind the idea that, 'if I have children here in this rural/coastal idyll they must be housed on my doorstep.'

Lilyflower Tue 23-Apr-24 13:26:10

How do you know what's in a newspaper if you 'don't read it ever'? Asking for a friend.

merlotgran Tue 23-Apr-24 13:37:32

I laugh when people declare they will never have the DM in their homes. What on earth are they afraid of?

They often have a comprehensive knowledge of the day’s reports so must be reading it on their phones.

It is free after all! 😂😂

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 13:51:24

Lilyflower

How do you know what's in a newspaper if you 'don't read it ever'? Asking for a friend.

😂😂😂

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 13:53:21

merlotgran

I laugh when people declare they will never have the DM in their homes. What on earth are they afraid of?

They often have a comprehensive knowledge of the day’s reports so must be reading it on their phones.

It is free after all! 😂😂

They often have a comprehensive knowledge of the day’s reports so must be reading it on their phones

Perhaps they sit in the garden shed to read it on their phones.
At least they're not in the house!

And yes, they know far more about what's in it than those who say they just buy it once a week for the TV programmes.

Casdon Tue 23-Apr-24 14:27:37

Just a point, not sure if you’re aware that the Daily Mail newspaper and Mail Online don’t produce the same content, Mail Online is effectively a franchise?

merlotgran Tue 23-Apr-24 14:49:13

Casdon

Just a point, not sure if you’re aware that the Daily Mail newspaper and Mail Online don’t produce the same content, Mail Online is effectively a franchise?

I never give it a minute’s thought. 😂

Callistemon21 Tue 23-Apr-24 15:56:14

Casdon

Just a point, not sure if you’re aware that the Daily Mail newspaper and Mail Online don’t produce the same content, Mail Online is effectively a franchise?

No, I didn't know that.

Perhaps more clickbait in the online version,then.

Of course, it depends what someone is looking for.
If someone is looking to be perpetually offended, seek and ye shall find!

LizzieDrip Tue 23-Apr-24 18:17:39

If you read your eighteenth and nineteenth century novels, access to homes was a primary concern for everyone.

Lillyflower surely society has progressed since the 19th Century. Slavery, misogyny, racism, corporal & capitol punishment and childhood deaths were also concerns - should we go back to accepting them too?

LizzieDrip Tue 23-Apr-24 18:27:11

However, if you originate from the sixtieth floor of a high rise, there you are stuck forever.

Lillyflower I have no issue with those originating from a high rise etc moving to a more idyllic location and living there, if they can manage to buy a property there. What I do take issue with is people who have enough money to buy a second home in the idyllic location, not living in it for most of the year and contributing to the rise in property prices in these locations - pricing others (less fortunate) out of the market.

flappergirl Tue 23-Apr-24 20:30:43

Lillyflower. Your comparison with the 18th & 19th centuries doesn't wash. I think you'll find there was a lot of unimaginable poverty and misery in Dickens and Hardy's novels. Such suffering was the very foundation of your idealised capitalist system, along with slavery and the systematic asset stripping of other countries.

A second home is not a necessity and is a highly questionable aspiration but this is only part of a much wider issue. The world is changing faster than ever before and governments worldwide are going to have to choose new paths. The old models are broken and no longer fit for purpose, or at least they won't be for much longer.

Finally I've heard people talking about the good old days as in the 1950's, but rarely have I heard someone extolling the virtues of the 18th century!