Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

Quote MissAdventure Fri 26-Apr-24 10:11:35
Well, I think I can tell on the basis of this thread.
I think she rocks women's ideas of being "good women" and the sort that "decent men" would be interested in.

Only here have I read she is from the gutter

It would appear however that the majority of the really nasty attacks on her from social media are by men
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/angela-rayner-opens-up-terrifying-27178370

eazybee

If you are referring to Lord Ashcroft, he has done considerable research for his book, which can be disputed by its subject. and I would say he is presenting the truth.

I think you'll find that Ashcroft pays researchers for his material.

I also recall that he was 'co-author' of an unofficial biography of David Cameron with its dubious story about a pig's head...

Judged by some to be a 'revenge job'...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/21/lord-ashcrofts-cameron-biography-bears-hallmarks-of-revenge-job

I'm not altogether sure that Ashcroft is the reliable source that people think he is...

This thread isn't representative of the entire uk population.
Not by a long shot.

I doubt any men are on this thread, so you can’t possibly use it as evidence that she upsets.women far more than men.

Completely different backgrounds though Pantglas. Cherie’s parents were well educated, and she was properly cared for. Her mother wasn’t mentally ill so she wasn’t a carer, which makes a huge difference to a child.

Well, I think I can tell on the basis of this thread.
I think she rocks women's ideas of being "good women" and the sort that "decent men" would be interested in.

That's my bit of armchair psychology for today.

Does she? We can’t tell on the basis of this thread. What my husband says about her is unprintable.

Its fascinating how she seems to upset women far more than men.

Angela and Cherie both lacked a father figure and were not brought up in the lap of luxury - one harps on about it ad infinitum (catnip? Who knew) and the other knew a Grammar school and University would be her saviour.

‘The flaming red hair’ quote was quite polite from him wasn’t it? He might have used Ginger Minger but that would have been so rude and derogatory about her appearance… oh wait!

Or just passes by without remark.

We have spent 14 pages on it

It's not necessary to be a fan of someone's to dislike what is said about them.
Particularly when it applies to so many mps.

Crossstitchfan

Errr - nitpicking?

Who?
We're all picking nits, so it's difficult to decide who you mean.

I agree, eazybee. Rayner’s supporters may not like what he has to say, but he would be careful to check the veracity of his sources.

eazybee

From Lord Ashcroft's forthcoming biography about Angela Rayner.
"If there is one thing Labour's deputy leader can be relied on to talk about, it's her deprived working-class childhood, which culminated in her becoming a mother at 16 and a low-paid home help. Again and again, Angela Rayner has returned to the topic – at Labour Party conferences, in media interviews, even in the Commons debating chamber. Along with her blazing red hair and her penchant for making inflammatory remarks, it's helped make her a semi-celebrity amid a sea of middle-class MPs.

Her advisers have tried to persuade her to 'change the record', says a former colleague, and find new things to talk about, but she refused. An ex-colleague said: 'We did say to her, 'Angela, we've got to move on from this stuff and focus on the future. You need to give them some idea of where you want to take people. But she would always hark back to her hard-luck history because it was the fail-safe method she used to disarm journalists or critics and for building up her reputation within the Labour Party. When she told her back story at Labour meetings they would always lap it up, and she would say, 'It's catnip to them.' Those were her words.
'She was privately very dismissive of their response, but publicly she'd accept all the hugs and embraces people would give her as a self-proclaimed working-class heroine. She knew it played so well in the Labour Party."

He’s hilarious isn’t he, the posh version of Nadine Dorries. Just read this summary of his autobiography of Rishi Sunak.
www.theguardian.com/books/2020/nov/15/going-for-broke-the-rise-of-rishi-sunak-by-michael-ashcroft-review-too-perfect-to-be-plausible

It's better if its said posher.

In terms of this remark, I don't know why her background is being brought into it by us.

Unless one is making the point that equivalent pointed/qustionable remarks are always being made by others but in a posher way?

Where has he researched someone else's life?
How?
He is cashing in.
Pure and simple, and shameful.

Earning money off someone he hasn't a good word for.

If you are referring to Lord Ashcroft, he has done considerable research for his book, which can be disputed by its subject. and I would say he is presenting the truth.

Errr - nitpicking?

"Her flaming red hair" kind of spoils it for me, that he is in any way competent to speak about her.

And he is the authority on someone else's life?

Pantglas2

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news….

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

I don’t understand your comparison of the backgrounds of Cherie Blair and Angela Rayner Pantglas? Cherie’s parents were divorced when she was eight, but she was brought up by her mother and grandma in a stable household, and went to university?

From Lord Ashcroft's forthcoming biography about Angela Rayner.
"If there is one thing Labour's deputy leader can be relied on to talk about, it's her deprived working-class childhood, which culminated in her becoming a mother at 16 and a low-paid home help. Again and again, Angela Rayner has returned to the topic – at Labour Party conferences, in media interviews, even in the Commons debating chamber. Along with her blazing red hair and her penchant for making inflammatory remarks, it's helped make her a semi-celebrity amid a sea of middle-class MPs.

Her advisers have tried to persuade her to 'change the record', says a former colleague, and find new things to talk about, but she refused. An ex-colleague said: 'We did say to her, 'Angela, we've got to move on from this stuff and focus on the future. You need to give them some idea of where you want to take people. But she would always hark back to her hard-luck history because it was the fail-safe method she used to disarm journalists or critics and for building up her reputation within the Labour Party. When she told her back story at Labour meetings they would always lap it up, and she would say, 'It's catnip to them.' Those were her words.
'She was privately very dismissive of their response, but publicly she'd accept all the hugs and embraces people would give her as a self-proclaimed working-class heroine. She knew it played so well in the Labour Party."

Pantglas2

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news….

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

Well obviously Cherie did at some point, or else you wouldn't know about her upbringing.

Perhaps Rayner does it far more often, though; I wouldn't know.

I know,she spoke out when it was mental health awareness week or something like that.