Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

Without reading the book, I can't.
Just as you can't prove it isn't without reading it.

Unless you already have?

Iam64

I’ve always admired Alan Johnson. Comparing his childhood with the one Angela Rayner experienced is like comparing chalk and cheese. Both knew poverty, both had feckless absent fathers.
Johnson’s mother was a stable, hard working woman. She managed against the odds to bring up her son and daughter decently. She died at 42, when Alan was 13 and Linda 16. She was supported by a social worker in resisting attempts to take them into care. Instead they got a council flat . Alan Johnson was in touch with the sw when he write an autobiography. He credited his success to the support and love of his mother and sister and thanked the sw for sticking their neck out for them

I won’t detail Rayner’s different experiences but they lacked the loving care of a stable mother or an older sister

And yet people still ask, and I quote , why can't a woman be more like a man?
Well done, Angela.

Disingenuous much?

Pretty much every interview I’ve ever seen or read has covered her childhood, teenage years et cetera and off the top of my head check out The Guardian, British Vogue, ITV news….

I don’t recall Cherie Blair trotting out the same old, same old to keep playing on heartstrings - some get on with it and a few get stuck on it!

MissAdventure

Where has she used the "poor me" excuse?
I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely surprised if she she sees herself as a "poor me" case.

Absolutely MissA

MissAdventure

It is a quote from Nadine Dorries' book, 'The Plot'.
Good that it’s getting wider attention.

Prove it!

Where has she used the "poor me" excuse?
I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely surprised if she she sees herself as a "poor me" case.

Nor me AGA…she can dish it out but the minute anyone comes back at her she plays the ‘poor me’ card and ends up with the pity factor in her favour!

It’s a good working tactic I suppose but Cherie Blair never used it and she’s the one I admire!

Ahhh ... beautiful Cornwall. Very envious. Back to AR. I would hate to have a slanging match with her.

Oh how lovely!
Every single holiday I had as a child was in Cornwall.
My mum and dad loved it, and hoped to retire there. (A pipe dream, really)
Have a good day.

MissAdventure

Thank you.
Rayner's own words, though...

Labour’s Deputy Leader Angela Rayner is sometimes described as ‘fiery’ or ‘ballsy’, an authentic, working-class ‘gobby Northern lass’ – her own words – who can stick it to the Tories.

Well I'm glad she has a self-deprecating side to her too. I like that!
Anyway, I must go now (on holiday). I'm off to try out my Cornish accent with the fishermen at the harbour while walking the dogs!

Not very classy though, is it, to use the words "fuc* wit"?
Freya5
Sounds very common.

Thank you.
Rayner's own words, though...

Labour’s Deputy Leader Angela Rayner is sometimes described as ‘fiery’ or ‘ballsy’, an authentic, working-class ‘gobby Northern lass’ – her own words – who can stick it to the Tories.

MissAdventure

She had also singled out radio host James O’Brien, who she called a ‘public school posh boy f**k wit’ after he had blocked Dorries on Twitter.

She's right on that one. He's a pompous hoo ha.

Not you MissAdventure! AR and me! I wouldn't insult you!

Allsorts

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

I’m not sure what the basic instinct smear of Angela Rayner was, if not about her appearance? It was certainly sexism at the basest level.

Only two of us?
Hmmm....

MissAdventure

We have gone from "she said it"
To "it was the way she said it"
To "she should have said that someone else said it before she said it".

Let's just say she's a gobby northerner, and we don't like her, and be done with it.

Why? That's insulting.
There's no point two of us making fools of ourselves!

We have gone from "she said it"
To "it was the way she said it"
To "she should have said that someone else said it before she said it".

Let's just say she's a gobby northerner, and we don't like her, and be done with it.

Allsorts

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

Who are you talking about? - Nadine Dorries?

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

Joseann

True, but what about the far far wider audience? The onlookers, observers, listeners of the general public. Isn't that why PMQT is televised?

I think those days are long gone.
It's a free-for-all playground these days, with certainly not just Rayner, bit all of them jeering, and shouting, and showing off their ability to be more sarcastic than the next person.

The obsession with accents doesn't bother me, and I've never mentioned it here before. But ...
We all assume different accents at times, especially we are in a public facing role. (I was an Eastend cockney schoolgirl, but became Headmistress of a private school. Its easy to adapt to those you want to reach, in both directions). And if you'd rather stick to your roots, that's also fine.
For me and others on here, I think it was primarily the insult, not the accent. I would say exactly the same about Prince Harry's insulting personal remarks, even though he might have a very posh voice. Just don't do it!

Well said WWM!

The point about Rayner is that she was brought up in the school of hard knocks, and had succeeded despite all the sneers, ridicule and nastiness that she has encountered along the way. I for one would have fallen by the way side I’m sure.

She could of course affected an accent just as Rees-Mogg has done - don’t be fooled by his drawl - nobody naturally speaks like that - but Rayner has clearly decided to remain true to her difficult roots and by doing so is a role model for many other young women whose lives are disastrous from birth- just as hers was.

So whilst our very unpleasant British trait of snobbishness is in full force at times like this, it does us no harm to wonder how we would have survived let alone succeed given such a poor start.

The woman is to be admired not knocked for her success.

Casdon

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Not sure if it was deliberate on a thread about height nanna8, but your comment was sizeist!

It was meant to be ironical but hey Ho.