Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

It is televised to inform, but those in parliament are debating with the opposition, and deciding law and policy. They are not addressing the wider public, and when you think about it neither could/should they.

However, be in no doubt that some MPs undoubtedly play to the wider audience when they get up to speak. That is often the only contribution they ever make.

True, but what about the far far wider audience? The onlookers, observers, listeners of the general public. Isn't that why PMQT is televised?

joseanne

Given the context, and the people to whom she was speaking, she didn’t need to.

Every Tory would know that it was a quote from Dorries.

It is a commons past time - to throw individuals words back at them.

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Not sure if it was deliberate on a thread about height nanna8, but your comment was sizeist!

MayBee70

Why would you attribute it to AR now you know she was quoting Dorries? That doesn’t make sense to me.

I dont always make sense to myself sometimes, Maybee70!
But in answer to the question, possibly, because the Dorries figure was certainly nowhere near as prominent flamboyant as her charismatic leader at the time, whereas AR is almost more out there than KS himself. I'm not saying that's a bad thing for the Labour Party, because she is very much what you see is what you get. For me, however, -without getting attacked for being snobbish, snooty or whatever- her behaviour is rather alien.
I know now she was quoting Dorries, but it would have been helpful to have known from the start, because first impressions die hard. Maybe she needs to work a bit on clarity when repeating someone else's words so we are aware of the context.

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Who? Nadine Dorries?

She of whom a seat in the House of Lords evaded her?

Even Johnson with his standards bumping along the ground couldn’t stomach giving her entry - so you can tell the calibre of the woman.

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Imagine the uproar if a Tory had called her a Ginger Minger during PMQs…

Just for the record, Rishi Sunak is 5ft 6ins which is the same height as Macron and Zelensky! So any insults about his height also apples to them. In fact Churchill and Putin are only one inch taller at 5ft 7ins.

Why would you attribute it to AR now you know she was quoting Dorries? That doesn’t make sense to me.

So why then didn't AR acknowledge that her comment was a kidnapped quote from Dorries? The thing is, that most uninformed people like me will now always associate it with AR.
At least Boris used to explain his waffly classical examples with the expression, "In the words of ......", or his crazy ramblings with the starter, "As ..... once said".
I like to know where quotes are lifted from, but as I haven't read the Dorries book, nor do I intend to, in a few weeks time, if you ask me, I will attribute the use of the insult to AR.

I don't approve of Dorries levelling personal insults about someone's body either. So I'll criticise her for the comment as equally as I criticise Rayner.
The whole childish insulting and baying at each other achieves nothing. I wish they would be grownups and do what's best for the country. If they listened and considered more, were prepared to compromise, and put the country before party we could actually make some progress.

In addition, Dorries has also shared several tweets that promoted Islamophobia including one from the now-suspended account of far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon aka Tommy Robinson.

She had also singled out radio host James O’Brien, who she called a ‘public school posh boy f**k wit’ after he had blocked Dorries on Twitter.

It is a quote from Nadine Dorries' book, 'The Plot'.
Good that it’s getting wider attention.

Whitewavemark2

Guess who coined the term pint -sized ?

None other than that Johnson adoring Nadine Dorries😄.

Rubbish!

What ND said was Sunak was the biggest VOTE loser.

Oh yes it makes a difference - she was drawing on it. Except that unless its reported, people won't realise its origin.

Whitewavemark2

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

I had no idea!

Whitewavemark2

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

Correct ladies. It was Nadine Dorries who called Sunak a pint sized loser some time ago.

There were smirks on the other side of the House as Tory MPs recognised the tongue in cheek reference (and they don't like Sunak any more than AR does).

So perhaps now the prejudicial pearl clutchers amongst us will know exactly where to direct their ire.

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Guess who coined the term pint -sized ?

None other than that Johnson adoring Nadine Dorries😄.

A nasty, cheap shot. Who was talking about "arbiters of class"?

Now this is definitely a class act😄😄😄