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Who is responsible for taking care of children’s teeth?

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maddyone Thu 16-May-24 11:34:30

In my opinion the care of children’s teeth is down to the parents. Visits to the dentist are part of that care, but are normally just to familiarise children with dentist visits.
I’ve just heard Keir Starmer speaking and I was shocked to hear him say that the biggest reason children go into hospital today, is to have rotten teeth removed. He blamed the government for this situation. He is right that the NHS dental service has been allowed to almost disappear under this government, but nonetheless the care of children’s teeth, and the prevention of dental decay is wholly the responsibility of the parents. I had three children and none of them had a filling until adulthood because I ensured proper teeth cleaning, and restricted the amount of sugar they were allowed to eat. They did visit the dentist but never required any treatment. Two of them still have never had a filling and they are now in their forties.

MissAdventure Fri 17-May-24 00:32:33

Oh no!
Don't tell me you taught some of them to read, too?

NotSpaghetti Fri 17-May-24 00:28:50

Oops!
🤔

MissAdventure Fri 17-May-24 00:25:07

grin
As long as they never find out..

NotSpaghetti Thu 16-May-24 23:55:09

Exactly MissAdventure - and I suppose I only looked after children nos 2, 4 and 5 correctly, no. 3 a bit and no. 1 not at all! grin

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 23:12:49

It's just come to me.
I knew it!
My sister was right, mum loved HER more than me. grin

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 23:05:53

So why did I need lots?
Why did my sister need none at all?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 16-May-24 23:02:41

maddyone

Of course they can. They ensure their children clean their teeth properly and they can restict sugar and fizzy drinks.

Exactly. Why has my son never needed a filling? The dentist hasn’t prevented tooth decay. I instilled good dental hygiene habits and he didn’t eat or drink lots of sugar.

MayBee70 Thu 16-May-24 22:57:45

maddyone

Ilovecheese

So we don't help neglected children then? Just leave them to it.

Who has said that?

‘but nonetheless the care of children’s teeth, and the prevention of dental decay is wholly the responsibility of the parents’
I think you did?

M0nica Thu 16-May-24 20:16:29

But maddyone 'Best-intentioned' parents would already be doing the things you mentioned.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 19:33:17

Bah! That is, not they is!!

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 19:32:23

Then they need to stop all this snacking and sipping, as they is also bad for your teeth.
I can't see that happening, somehow, and again, it doesn't seem to be a "couldnt care less" thing.
More like the latest fad.

maddyone Thu 16-May-24 19:28:37

Of course they can. They ensure their children clean their teeth properly and they can restict sugar and fizzy drinks.

M0nica Thu 16-May-24 18:58:26

The best intentioned parent can do nothing if there aren't any NHS dentists to take their children to.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 18:33:03

I'm envious myself.
I take after the other side of the family, who had quite problematic teeth.
Typical!!

maddyone Thu 16-May-24 18:25:48

How wonderful it must be to have such strong teeth (and I’m not being sarcastic, I’m genuinely quite envious.) My husband is one of the lucky ones too, but since I wasn’t so lucky I made it my business to ensure my children looked after their teeth. Nonetheless two them had to have four perfectly good teeth taken out and train track braces fitted because their teeth were too squashed. My other child escaped that, and he was the one who needed a filling. I was very upset when my oldest damaged his front tooth whilst playing rugby (he forgot his mouth guard and didn’t tell the teacher) and he has had to have that tooth crowned.

I think it really unpleasant for some posters to criticise others and call them virtuous just for looking after their children’s teeth. It’s something all parents should try to do.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 18:07:20

My nan was 80 ish without any, and my mum 80, with just two.

She used to get really cross when asked to take her dentures out, because they were absolutely straight and white too.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 16-May-24 18:04:18

You are correct, NotSpaghetti. My Dad was always having fillings and, as a child, so was I despite brushing correctly - though as NHS dentists were paid per treatment, who is to say I needed them? I rarely needed fillings as I grew older …. However despite many fillings when I was young I have only had one tooth extracted and that was due to failed root canal treatment. Thankfully my son must have inherited my Mum’s good teeth, though of course like me he was taught to brush properly and his sugar intake was more limited than mine, though sweets were not banned. He has never needed a filling and is almost 40.

MayBee70 Thu 16-May-24 18:02:27

It isn’t just sweets that cause tooth decay. My granddaughter was given raisins as a healthy treat until the dentist advised against it. And I used to give my kids orange juice to drink thinking it was healthier than squash etc not realising that the acidity would be bad for them. And they always had fruit for supper and brushed their teeth afterwards…another thing you’re not supposed to do.Thankfully they seem to have got away with it decay wise. My son ended up with crooked lower teeth because he had overcrowding and this happened after he left home to go to uni; I feel really guilty about it.

NotSpaghetti Thu 16-May-24 17:50:21

My own solution, were I the PM, would be to pay dentists properly for seeing children (and adults too but at least children) but also to go back to having school dentists, because not all parents will take their children to see a dentist.

I would second this maddyone👍

Casdon Thu 16-May-24 17:45:11

maddyone

Germanshepherdsmum

There will only be more NHS dentists if their contracts pay at least the equivalent of private dentistry - and that’s a lot of money. When we were young private dentists were few and far between and only used by the wealthy. They have become much more accessible. Why should any dentist, after years of training, have to work for peanuts if they have another choice? Paying them more to do NHS work will inevitably see a rise in taxes. People will love that.

And this applies to doctors too, but that’s a whole other discussion.

I agree regarding the dental contractors who run their own practices.
School dentists aren’t private contractors though, they are employed by the NHS directly, in a similar way to community dentists who pick up dental care for some client groups. It is a salaried role that is appealing to dentists who don’t want to run their own practices, and can fit in well with school hours and terms.

NotSpaghetti Thu 16-May-24 17:45:01

Can I please just reiterate what some of us said earlier - some children just DO inherit poor teeth and some are blessed with fabulous ones.

Whilst diet and cleaning and regular dental appointments are obviously very important I have to say there's a lot of smugness on this thread. It is not all down to the way you parented (though clearly enhanced by this).

Children with the same diets and the same dental routine are often found to have very different teeth.

Just saying.

Luckygirl3 Thu 16-May-24 17:43:08

maddyone

Luckygirl
What a good idea, justify the giving of sweets to rot their teeth.
Unbelievable!

There is a difference between justification and understanding.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 17:36:15

It's now quite acceptable for a child to still be unable to use cutlery, to not be reliably toilet trained, or to speak clearly, and I don't think that is a "couldn't care less" problem amongst stupid parents.

It is as much a "thing" with better educated, more "able" parents.

sodapop Thu 16-May-24 17:32:18

MissAdventure

Teachers are taking on roles that arent in their remit more and more, it seems.
It can't be right, or cost effective.

Absolutely right MissA parents seem to be abdicating their role in many cases.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 17:18:23

Teachers are taking on roles that arent in their remit more and more, it seems.
It can't be right, or cost effective.