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Poppyred

The last Labour government (Tony Blair and his side kick) introduced the new G.P. and Dental contracts - resulting in no doctors appointments which is the reason everyone including ambulances are queuing to get into A&E and why most of the UK is now without NHS dentistry.
They also invited the rest of the world into this country hence the relentless treck to get here.
Vote labour? You must be bloody joking!!

Absolutely correct and once the doctors and dentists accepted these new deals there was no turning back.

Labour also brought in tuition fees and created bedroom tax and the hated zero hours contracts.

No thanks.

Yet so many believe Labour will save the NHS. Have they not seen what the devolved Labour administration in Wales has done to the NHS there?

The last Labour government (Tony Blair and his side kick) introduced the new G.P. and Dental contracts - resulting in no doctors appointments which is the reason everyone including ambulances are queuing to get into A&E and why most of the UK is now without NHS dentistry

Yes, they did. I remember we were left without an NHS dentist at all here.

The last Labour government (Tony Blair and his side kick) introduced the new G.P. and Dental contracts - resulting in no doctors appointments which is the reason everyone including ambulances are queuing to get into A&E and why most of the UK is now without NHS dentistry.
They also invited the rest of the world into this country hence the relentless treck to get here.
Vote labour? You must be bloody joking!!

LizzieDrip

I suppose people will criticise KS for cooking Tandoori salmon - too foreign and too posh! Perhaps he’d be expected to cook ham bones and boiled cabbage🙈

I think it's fairly certain that both Sunak and Starmer will be criticised by those who dislike one or the other (or both), regardless of what they do.

If you don't like the party they represent - or don't like them - it's not difficult to find a reason to condemn them.

... which is why, for me, pre-election campaigning is so bloody tedious. Whilst they are verbally sparring with each other either in the House or courtesy of the media, the rest of us are getting on with the life they have largely created for us; worrying about our bills and whether we'll get an appointment to see one of the diminishing number of doctors available for such appointments. And all the other minutiae of our humdrum lives.

I like Jess Phillips, much prefer her to any of the other Labour politicians.

I'm not a fan of Keir. I find him rather robotic.

I do like Angela Raynor though.

GrannyGravy13

LizzieDrip

I suppose people will criticise KS for cooking Tandoori salmon - too foreign and too posh! Perhaps he’d be expected to cook ham bones and boiled cabbage🙈

My criticism is purely why is the leader of the Labour Party guest chef on what is primarily a cooking/entertainment programme when we have 100’s of excellent professional chefs in the UK?

... because now and then, these types of programmes bring in a high-profile public figure as a guest?

It's been going on for ages, and these guests are from various walks-of-life.

I presume the programme-makers, or the participants themselves, assume it increases viewing numbers.

This is not to support KS - I'm just puzzled why you are puzzled at this 'tradition' of introducing guests into programmes on various subjects - on which they might have no obvious connection.

I do worry that Labour is banging out the same household economic trope.

I also think they are saying what they think people want to hear without actually knowing how to follow through.

I am a so called floating voter for the first time in my life.

..or even better, Jacob Rees-Mogg chairing Have I Got News For You….

Desperate for publicity, to be seen as a man of the people.

I’d trust him with food hygiene anyway.
Actually it’s a positive sign that the election isn’t too far away. Expect to see Rishi Sunak on I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here later this year.

LizzieDrip

I suppose people will criticise KS for cooking Tandoori salmon - too foreign and too posh! Perhaps he’d be expected to cook ham bones and boiled cabbage🙈

My criticism is purely why is the leader of the Labour Party guest chef on what is primarily a cooking/entertainment programme when we have 100’s of excellent professional chefs in the UK?

I suppose people will criticise KS for cooking Tandoori salmon - too foreign and too posh! Perhaps he’d be expected to cook ham bones and boiled cabbage🙈

I have just turned on Sunday Brunch (Channel 4) only to see Kier Starmer as guest chef cooking Tandoori Salmon.

Electioneering has well and truly commenced.

Why do you have to be so nasty about a person from a working class background who achieved a top job in their profession and earned their knighthood by virtue of having done so? Aren't people in the Labour party allowed to be anything other than horny handed sons of the soil and exploited factory workers?
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Looking back over 50 years or more what I can see is Labour achievements which more than outweigh its faults and unwavering tory cruelty to the most vulnerable in society. I have no doubt whatever about where my will go

Hear, hear MaizieD!

Interesting how any posts that don’t support Sir Starmer ‘disappear’ Curious

What! Have you read the thread nanna8?

nanna8

Interesting how any posts that don’t support Sir Starmer ‘disappear’ Curious.

Sorry, nanna8, but that is rubbish. Just look back through the thread!

MayBee70

Why can’t we trust Labour to do what they say they will?

Because they’re politicians 😥

Interesting how any posts that don’t support Sir Starmer ‘disappear’ Curious.

The ludicrous excuse given by Labour that councils could rebuild their housing stock having given tenants a discount of 35-70% off market value is laughable!

Builders don’t work for nothing and materials cost money so even if Blair had righted Thatcher’s wrong and allowed it, and let’s remember he chose not to, finances dictate there wouldn’t be a one-for-one situation.

Casdon

It doesn’t matter much what over 65 traditional Tory voters vote though, as it’s not your votes that Labour will be targeting. As a demographic, over 65s are known to be the most set in their voting habits, and most right wing, so not worth the candle. Even in this group though the polls only currently show a 4% Tory bias.

This⬆️

Exactly what I was thinking last night.

Unlike most of the posters on this thread I have managed to reach my three score and ten without becoming stereotypically 'old' in my view of politics and politicians and I don't agree at all with those who seem the think that it's terribly mature to dismiss all governments of whatever colour as all the same and useless to boot.

Looking back over 50 years or more what I can see is Labour achievements which more than outweigh its faults and unwavering tory cruelty to the most vulnerable in society. I have no doubt whatever about where my will go.

Smileless2012

Yes but surely without the right to buy, more would have been available Elegran.

If the money from the right to buy had been invested in building new council housing (calling it social housing if they had wanted to change the image) the stocks of housing would have stayed sufficient. However, that was banned for a long time, and housing stocks became less and less as more people bought the house they were living in. Meanwhile, council budgets shrank and shrank. Amenities like housing, libraries and community education courses shrank too.