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Donald Trump a convicted felon

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Oreo Thu 30-May-24 22:13:39

Trump has been found guilty on all 34 charges by a united jury!

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 12:08:32

Cossy

Both parties DID have other candidates put forward and nominated to stand, but it was Biden and Trump who “won” to go forward.

Tbh I don’t fully understand the entire USA voting system

From what my son tells me, it’s about the “college system” -which I don’t really understand either.

But, the Republican Party don’t need to nominate him.

Urmstongran Fri 31-May-24 12:06:03

From the Telegraph:

“Love or hate Trump, this rotten trial is an assault on justice
Trump’s conviction on all counts will tear America’s already fragile political fabric apart from the seams.”

Cossy Fri 31-May-24 11:59:42

Both parties DID have other candidates put forward and nominated to stand, but it was Biden and Trump who “won” to go forward.

Tbh I don’t fully understand the entire USA voting system

Cossy Fri 31-May-24 11:53:42

Curtaintwitcher

It was a foregone conclusion. This wouldn't have happened if he didn't still have massive support and a strong chance of being elected again.
He is an unpleasant person but he is what America needs.

What?? How on earth do you work this out? “He’s what America needs” what does even mean! Have you ever been to America?

Boz Fri 31-May-24 11:45:08

Fortunately the UK deflated it's very own populist blond bladder of nonsense, but then we are more cynical than the USA, I feel.

foxie48 Fri 31-May-24 11:40:11

Caleo

Let's not say "only in America could such a man retain and secure enough votes to make him head of state". It could happen in the UK if the electorate become stupified by some man's charisma plus paranoid fear of others.

Agree. Sadly social media helps this to happen. Too many people only take their information from a limited number of sources and so never have their views challenged, just get more of the same and in stronger doses.

Boz Fri 31-May-24 11:39:39

Germanshepherdsmum

Urmstongran

As he often says, “if they can do this to me, think what they can do to you”. They’ve just guaranteed a Trump win. The bookies odds are 6/5 on they think so too. The next few weeks will be interesting. I’m not American but even I thought this won’t be a fair trial. The judge is a Democrat donor and NY is a Democrat stronghold.

Are you agreeing with him that the trial was rigged and the judge was biased?

Methinks the lady is somewhat enamoured!

Yongy Fri 31-May-24 11:38:11

Ladyleftfieldlover

Apparently there’s nothing in their constitution which says a convicted criminal can’t stand for President and be elected, even if they’re in jail. I’m sure that’s not the case here.

It is about time the US sorted out their constitution, it is crazy that Trump could be elected President even if he is in prison!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-May-24 11:33:09

zakouma66

maddyone

How could anyone vote for him after this? Surely it’s the end?

He has his fans on here. Somethign about standing up for people and building a wall I believe.

The racists support him.

He is now charged by a black person of calling her a n…….r

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-May-24 11:31:41

Wyllow3

I think they will find that harder to prove than Georgia, although the insurrection is the really "big" one.

I think I read that if found guilty in the Georgia trial - it carries a long prison sentence.

zakouma66 Fri 31-May-24 11:30:45

maddyone

How could anyone vote for him after this? Surely it’s the end?

He has his fans on here. Somethign about standing up for people and building a wall I believe.

Maremia Fri 31-May-24 11:19:33

Possibly the first time ever that he has been held to account for his actions. Pity it's too late to moderate his character.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-May-24 11:18:11

Sorry that was in reply to wwm.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 31-May-24 11:17:43

I agree. There is no date set for this apparently, as his unsuccessful claim to be immune from prosecution delayed matters for some time. it might not happen before the November election.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-May-24 11:16:24

Jaberwok

Surely the Democrats have SOMEONE, who is not over 80! and who is not confused to the point that he doesn't know where he is or what he's talking about! Think reviewing the troops at BP! The King actually had to point him in the right direction! As for crooks! Other Presidents trod a fine line at best and simply didn't get found out, easy enough before social media, let's face it, money speaks all languages. Mind you, think Nixon, and don't forget Clinton!

I've wondered that too of course - I decided that the democrats have thought "steady as she goes". Biden is a known quantity and centrist - maybe safer than lots of complicated publicity with opposing democrats being picked apart by right wing media. Good VP too, in Kamala Harris.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-May-24 11:12:25

I think they will find that harder to prove than Georgia, although the insurrection is the really "big" one.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-May-24 11:06:08

I think the most serious trial is going to be the “invoking insurrection on the 6th January trial.

JenniferEccles Fri 31-May-24 10:59:29

I’ve just been reading that prosecutors alleged that there were violations of federal and state election laws along with tax fraud, but they didn’t state which one was broken.
Legal experts claim this could form the basis for an appeal, as never before has a state prosecutor invoked an uncharged federal crime and there are questions about whether the District Attorney had the power to do so.

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 10:53:02

Well, someone convicted wouldn’t be allowed to stand or serve, in our Parliament. Our rules prevent it.

But, this country knowingly elected an adulterous, self serving liar, trailing mistresses and children in his wake, as PM.

Apparantly, that was ok - because Johnson was a “character”. 🙄

Lovetopaint037 Fri 31-May-24 10:51:53

MayBee70

Wow. I missed it. I was watching Sky Arts!

Good for you MayBee70 that way leads to sanity. Keep that way.

Caleo Fri 31-May-24 10:47:41

Let's not say "only in America could such a man retain and secure enough votes to make him head of state". It could happen in the UK if the electorate become stupified by some man's charisma plus paranoid fear of others.

DiamondLily Fri 31-May-24 10:47:01

Whitewavemark2

It is really quite bizarre - Trump, as a conflicted felon can no longer vote, but can stand for President.

It seems that Trump, contrary to his rhetoric, will be affected by this sentence. Independent (floating voters) are more likely to change their minds and turn away from Trump.

Apparantly, he can still vote. It depends on the state convicted in, and NY allows Class E felons to vote, providing they are not in jail.

“ It's likely that Trump will be able to vote this autumn.
Under Florida law, - where Trump is a resident - a person with a felony conviction from another state is ineligible to vote only "if the conviction would make the person ineligible to vote in the state where the person was convicted".
Trump was convicted in New York, where felons are allowed, external to vote as long as they are not currently incarcerated.
This means that unless Trump is behind bars on 5 November, he should be eligible to cast his ballot.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o

M0nica Fri 31-May-24 10:42:33

i can think of no man so deserving of this event.

Jaberwok Fri 31-May-24 10:27:13

Surely the Democrats have SOMEONE, who is not over 80! and who is not confused to the point that he doesn't know where he is or what he's talking about! Think reviewing the troops at BP! The King actually had to point him in the right direction! As for crooks! Other Presidents trod a fine line at best and simply didn't get found out, easy enough before social media, let's face it, money speaks all languages. Mind you, think Nixon, and don't forget Clinton!

Cossy Fri 31-May-24 10:23:27

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