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3 Abandoned Newborn Babies

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Sparklefizz Tue 04-Jun-24 11:22:45

It's now been announced that 3 abandoned newborn babies all have the same parents.

Could it be that the mother is being held captive like that young woman in Austria imprisoned by her father, who gave birth to several babies which he removed?

OldFrill Sun 09-Jun-24 09:12:35

M0nica

I doubt a family with religious convictions that ban contraception would abandon their children.

If a baby was born through incest or outwith marriage l think they very much would be likely to abandon them.

Chestnut Sat 08-Jun-24 10:05:17

eddiecat78 There were a few episodes of Long Lost Family on abandoned babies, absolutely heartbreaking, but then so amazing when they find close family through DNA. I think there is a new series starting Monday, a young woman who was left at a railway station.

These three babies have an advantage because the authorities already know they are related unlike the older ones. And the DNA searches will be ongoing, looking for a match.

PamelaJ1 Sat 08-Jun-24 09:19:15

Perhaps the mother has special needs?

CarS Fri 07-Jun-24 21:55:29

Only a thought, being as we're playing around with storylines here. What happens if the mother is here illegally?. Is a hospital birth avoided?

fluttERBY123 Fri 07-Jun-24 20:00:34

The only spark here is that the plan is for the children to know each other, so they will not be alone in.what happened to.them.

eddiecat78 Fri 07-Jun-24 19:37:20

I seem to remember an episode of Long Lost Family about abandoned babies - 2 people who had been abandoned contacted the programme separately and discovered they were full siblings. They went on to discover another baby had been abandoned and there were other babies who had stayed with the parents. One of the children who had stayed commented that the children who hadn't were the lucky ones

M0nica Fri 07-Jun-24 19:02:56

I doubt a family with religious convictions that ban contraception would abandon their children.

Casdon Fri 07-Jun-24 18:59:32

It’s unlikely, but it could also be much more mundane. A couple with lots of children already, living on the breadline and unable to afford any more, religion preventing contraception. The truth will out in this case I think, eventually.
I’ve learned my lesson from the two recent stabbings where everybody assumed there were mental health issues and there weren’t, not to always look for reasons which excuse the woman/girl.

ReadyMeals Fri 07-Jun-24 18:21:13

My thoughts as some others of us were that the mother is somehow captive and therefore the baby needed to be left somewhere no camera could catch the event. After all if it's a man dumping the baby (which it would be if the mother is captive) then that would immediately trigger police investigations. Under those circumstances even one of those left baby cubbies wouldn't work for them.

Sparklefizz Fri 07-Jun-24 17:13:12

I agree Ilovecheese

Ilovecheese Fri 07-Jun-24 17:10:22

It doesn't have to be actual physical captivity. It could be emotional control and the threat of violence towards the woman herself, her family or her other children. It could be that she is being told that she will be held responsible for the reputational damage to her family.

Sparklefizz Fri 07-Jun-24 17:00:57

grandtante Contraception is free in the UK.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 07-Jun-24 16:27:15

Captivity seems unlikely to me - the Austrian girl whose father kept her in their basement had her children with her, and so I seem to think did some of the other women kept prisoners.

Surely, it is more likely that the mother of these children is too poor to bring them up? With all the unemployed, not to mention homeless all countries have these days and the total inadequecy of social security, I find it sadly likely that the parents of these children cannot afford to clothe and feed them.

And yes, contraceptives exist, but the pill is only available, and rightly so, on prescription, so expense kicks in here too, and no form of contraception is 100 % sure.

We all know that any woman consulting a gynaecologist is asked whether she has ever given birth and if so how many children she has - what do you expect the mother in this case to tell her doctor if she consults him or her about sterilisation? She can hardly say, "Oh yes, doctor, I have had three healthy babies in the course of seven years and abandoned them all!"

pascal30 Fri 07-Jun-24 13:57:24

I can't imagine the pain the mother is feeling if this was done without her agreement..

midgey Fri 07-Jun-24 13:31:32

The Irish foundling story was on Woman’s Hour this morning. Extraordinary story but worth a listen on BBC Sounds.

Juniper1 Fri 07-Jun-24 13:24:21

That was my thought. The way they were left doesn’t sound like a woman, she would leave them somewhere safer.

Rainnsnow Fri 07-Jun-24 11:15:28

The police have told this story because the press were about to release it. That is an unusual step, maybe they want the public to come forward with information. To go through child birth without any anti natal care or medical support isn’t done lightly.

Rainnsnow Fri 07-Jun-24 11:12:43

The police have told this story b

NotSpaghetti Thu 06-Jun-24 21:19:34

Unless the baby was born outside - in the park for instance?

We know nothing really. And nor should we.

MercuryQueen Thu 06-Jun-24 21:08:34

Given that the baby was an hour old, I can’t see it being the mother abandoning it. Simply the time and physical exertion required to have abandoned the child in the park and be gone by the time baby was found? She probably hadn’t passed the afterbirth before baby was taken away

NotSpaghetti Thu 06-Jun-24 20:07:12

Just so, Iam

NotSpaghetti Thu 06-Jun-24 20:05:30

Freya5 - I don't think for a minute it would have been a hospital birth.

Freya5 Thu 06-Jun-24 19:47:31

Casdon

The umbilical cord wouldn’t have still been attached if she was born in hospital either.

No not at all, poor woman, this doesn't bear thinking about. Poor baby at least is safe, not sure about Mum, one hopes so. Horrendous, they need to catch this Monster.

Casdon Thu 06-Jun-24 16:44:48

The umbilical cord wouldn’t have still been attached if she was born in hospital either.

Iam64 Thu 06-Jun-24 16:40:38

I don’t expect the poster assumed a hospital was preventing this mother leaving - more likely a person with malign intentions