What on earth is it with the Tories!?

What about the bedroom tax Labour created

What???
The bedroom tax was implemented by the Conservatives under David Cameron.

What about the bedroom tax Labour created?
Very unpopular.

Zero hours contract was another of their great ideas. Not.

They created a generation of dependency too. 😢

^I agree and think that maybe it’s for the best just at the moment.
Big changes call for big bucks^

Agreed Oreo.

I’d have been very concerned if Labour had promised us the ‘moon on a stick’!

With the state of the economy, and particularly public services, after 14 years of Conservative austerity, a cautious approach is what’s needed at the moment👍

David49

Not Bankrupt, Truss showed us just how quickly confidence can evaporate if the wrong messages are sent, Starmers policies seem moderate enough but don’t expect any big changes.

I agree and think that maybe it’s for the best just at the moment.
Big changes call for big bucks.

MayBee70

Well, Scotland have no tuition fees so it can be done.

Only cos of Scotland having a very small population, and the even tinier amount of teenagers in Scotland attending universities there.Couldn’t be done in England with the best will in the world.

if they are more or less unopposed the country will go bankrupt

nanna8 can you explain your thinking here? I’m not sure how the two things relate to each other

Not Bankrupt, Truss showed us just how quickly confidence can evaporate if the wrong messages are sent, Starmers policies seem moderate enough but don’t expect any big changes.

I must say I don't understand this talk of bankruptcy when we're touted as being one of the richest countries in the world. We can't be (nearly) bankrupt too - can we?

Whoever wins, you do need a strong opposition. It looks like it will be the Labour Party but if they are more or less unopposed the country will go bankrupt . As for an unopposed Reform party - hold on to your hats, it would be a turbulent time there but in a different way.

YouGov announced today that their survey puts Reform ahead of the Tories, maybe Reform will win a few seats but I don’t believe that it will be a significant influence.

How do you feel about Mr Farage and his promises Primrose?
Perhaps you recall him suggesting that anyone with a non British grandparent be offered a sum of money to return to the country of their origin. No, I haven't invented this.
Perhaps he'll revive the idea now that he's standing again.
I had an Italian grandmother . I quite warmed to the idea.

MayBee70 Scotland’s free university tuition is interesting. I have heard of students unable to find a university place in Scotland and studying in England. No free tuition for some students therefore.

Well, Scotland have no tuition fees so it can be done.

Grantanow

The usual Tory strategy: spread fear of Labour and offer bribes to the voters. I'm not sure it works after 14 years of making a mess of the UK.

OMG. Remember the bribes Corbyn was offering to young people a few years ago?

Getting rid of Uni tuition fees (which Labour introduced in the first place!) free travel, free childcare, I reckon if he had offered free spliffs he would have got in. 🤣🤣

Just caught Robert Preston late last night thanking Cleverley for joining him “and saying nothing”. It did make me laugh.

Athrawes

I'm very disappointed with Grant Shapps. He's a good and helpful MP locally but not suitable for dealing with the rest of the UK.

Some of my family live in Welwyn and think Shapps is dreadful.

I'm very disappointed with Grant Shapps. He's a good and helpful MP locally but not suitable for dealing with the rest of the UK.

Sunak didn’t come out of last night’s debate too well, according to the snap poll afterwards:

news.sky.com/story/keir-starmer-raised-his-game-as-rishi-sunak-fell-flat-in-sky-news-leaders-event-13152170

The very same MayBee

mae13

I really have to take issue with Grant (I've-had-every-job-in-government) Schapps for saying that if Labour gain a huge majority then that would be unhealthy for democracy because that would allow them to be unnaccountable.

How dare you Schapps!

Funny how you never said Buffoon Boris having a majority of 80 was dodgy - that majority allowed him (and subsequently Truss and Sunak) to steam-roller through anything they wanted and wreak havoc.

Is that the same Grant Schapps that has operated under several identities in the past?

My thoughts exactly mae13👏👏👏

I really have to take issue with Grant (I've-had-every-job-in-government) Schapps for saying that if Labour gain a huge majority then that would be unhealthy for democracy because that would allow them to be unnaccountable.

How dare you Schapps!

Funny how you never said Buffoon Boris having a majority of 80 was dodgy - that majority allowed him (and subsequently Truss and Sunak) to steam-roller through anything they wanted and wreak havoc.

Yes, discussed on the "polls" thread with polls figures.

BBC I Player has a decent but not overlong account up on the debate, some clips. Starmer did well.

I must say I prefer this "interview one then the other" approach with more time to hear them speak than meaningless soundbite debates.

Casdon

Yes., I am. He’s given very good account. Beth Rigby is quite rude in the way she interrupts, I’m still waiting for a decent interviewer to surface.

Agree with you there.

Yes., I am. He’s given very good account. Beth Rigby is quite rude in the way she interrupts, I’m still waiting for a decent interviewer to surface.