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Second leaders hustings tonight

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winterwhite Thu 20-Jun-24 15:20:09

😳😳 who’s planning to watch? Format different from last time - seems that the leaders will have 30mins each to answer audience questions. Whether same questions to each I don’t know. Two hours, quite a marathon but we’ll be in our seats


LizzieDrip Fri 21-Jun-24 12:47:25

I find Fiona Bruce, and others annoying when they don’t refer it back to the questioner and give them chance to explore further if the question hasn’t been fully answered

Exactly Casdon.

In last night’s programme we learned more about what Fiona Bruce thought than those who actually asked the questions. So infuriating!

Casdon Fri 21-Jun-24 12:15:27

Grantanow

I think Bruce was keen to ensure the politicians answered the questions - a common complaint of QT audiences that they don't. Just letting them 'answer the question' gives them ample scope to avoid answering. Bruce tries to hold them to account. I think she did quite well. The audience did well too, less so the politicians.

What I dislike about many interviewers is the way that they interpret the answer before giving politicians the chance to explain their response. If they go into a pre-prepared election soundbite then they need to be stopped, but I’m not interested in hearing the interviewer’s view at all, only the questioner and the answer the politician gives. I find Fiona Bruce, and others annoying when they don’t refer it back to the questioner and give them chance to explore further if the question hasn’t been fully answered.

LauraNorderr Fri 21-Jun-24 11:41:47

Yes GSM, I am a member of the Tory party but I am disillusioned and looking at alternatives. This is what thinking voters do.
Thus far I am not inspired by any party.
To preempt those who will say that thinking voters would not vote for Truss I would say that my favoured leader at the time was Penny Mordaunt but the MPs ensured that she was not in the final two. It was obvious that they had plotted a Sunak win, so many members voted for Truss as a message that we will not be manipulated.
That did not turn out well as we watched the party continue its suicide mission.
I’m still watching and searching.
I do find Starmer boring but credible but find his likely front bench a frightening prospect but as Whitewave has pointed out it is difficult to know who will be available to form the Conservative front bench. I can only think that it couldn’t be worse.
I am most likely to put my trust in Sunak who has done a better job than I’d expected but I am still watching and listening.

Grantanow Fri 21-Jun-24 11:39:55

I think Bruce was keen to ensure the politicians answered the questions - a common complaint of QT audiences that they don't. Just letting them 'answer the question' gives them ample scope to avoid answering. Bruce tries to hold them to account. I think she did quite well. The audience did well too, less so the politicians.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jun-24 10:48:18

winterwhite

Who, me, GSM?

No, Lauranorderr. I remember her saying she was going to vote for Truss, which you could only do if a party member. Your post popped up as I was sending mine.

maddyone Fri 21-Jun-24 10:32:09

Casdon

I’m getting increasingly fed up with the poor skills of the hosts of these debates, not one of them so far has been good. Surely we can do better.

Fiona Bruce always interrupts on Question Time.
I really dislike the way she does that.

maddyone Fri 21-Jun-24 10:27:24

Germanshepherdsmum

No, not interested in LDs or SNP and will soon hear whether Sunak or Starmer said anything of note. Will watch the debate between Sunak and Starmer next Wednesday. May see if I can place a bet on how many times Starmer mentions his parents’ occupations and the phone being cut off, ‘lest we forget’.

I meant to watch but was quickly fed up of Ed Davey, especially as he washed himself whiter than white over the Post Office scandal. He believed his advisors!!! Anyone with a brain could see that over 500 Post Masters/Misstresses don’t suddenly turn into criminals taking money illegally taking money from the Post Office.

I was bored with SNP leader. He makes no difference to me, I don’t live in Scotland and the election outcome means that no coalition will be necessary.

We turned off. I knew that whatever was discussed will be all over the media, and GN this morning. And so it is.

We caught up with programme 3 of Cold Call, which we missed the night before because our daughter and grandchildren called from NZ. They take precedence over anything else when they call.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Jun-24 10:23:05

LauraNorderr

It is my opinion that not one of the party leaders has performed well so I am now studying the likely front bench of each party.
Not much there to inspire either but quite a lot to help decide where not to place my X.
An awful time for politics around the world.

No point in looking at the Tory front bench as you can’t be sure who will still be there.

Galaxy Fri 21-Jun-24 10:19:41

Oh I love 'trying to hold on to that Ming Vase'. Brilliantgrin.
It confuses me a little because I know Starmer is tough, and brave, it is not possible to do what he has done to the labour party otherwise.

winterwhite Fri 21-Jun-24 10:12:53

Who, me, GSM?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 21-Jun-24 10:05:13

I thought you were a member of the Conservative Party?

winterwhite Fri 21-Jun-24 10:05:01

Agree Fiona Bruce appalling. May be the usual format for QT
but I’d hoped to see the leaders able to explain their main policies and their intended direction of travel. Instead too many of the questions were raking up weak spots from the past and designed to put whoever it was on the spot. That wasn’t what we wanted at this point. All in all disappointing.

LauraNorderr Fri 21-Jun-24 10:01:17

It is my opinion that not one of the party leaders has performed well so I am now studying the likely front bench of each party.
Not much there to inspire either but quite a lot to help decide where not to place my X.
An awful time for politics around the world.

LizzieDrip Fri 21-Jun-24 09:52:28

Am hoping that once in power he will be and it’s only him not wanting to upset any applecarts before the election that’s holding him back

Oreo I genuinely believe that’s what it is! Judging by KS’s record (CPS etc) and the way he’s turned the LP around, he’s clearly not an indecisive man who avoids difficult issues.

But an election campaign is so febrile that an apple cart can be upset in the blink of an eye🙈

LizzieDrip Fri 21-Jun-24 09:44:22

Galaxy I take your point, but I think it’s clear that KS is just trying to hold on to that Ming vase until 4th July. Uncomfortable watching at times, I agree.

Things will be better when / if Labour wins!

David49 Fri 21-Jun-24 09:41:46

Primrose53

David49

In fairness Starmer couldn’t be seen to “rubbish” Corbyn, he has got a lot of Corbyn supporters in the party in the circumstances he did as well as can be expected.

Because it looks like Labour will get a landslide, how much influence will the left have, how long will Starmer last as leader?.

Pollsters said that last time and Labour had worst defeat since WWII. 😉

This is not a Brexit election, Starmer does not sit on the fence.

Oreo Fri 21-Jun-24 09:37:17

The SNP leader, as expected, he may as well have had his Rob Roy hat on.
Ed Davey as expected, nuff said!
KS not really answering a straight question with a straight answer.
RS prepared to be honest with answers and came out fighting as he knows he may as well cos he will only be in power for the next fortnight.
Fiona Bruce, just awful all round, she seemed to think her role one of heavy sarcasm, found myself saying ‘give the poor buggers a break’!
I haven’t done a postal vote and none of this will affect my vote for Labour but just wish KS would be braver with his replies.
Am hoping that once in power he will be and it’s only him not wanting to upset any applecarts before the election that’s holding him back.

Galaxy Fri 21-Jun-24 09:35:06

My worry is now and I dont even want to go into that particular topic, but generally you cant 'say nothing' in the hope of not offending a 'side'. You need to believe in things and stand by them. That is worrying me a little about Starmer.

RosiesMaw Fri 21-Jun-24 09:30:31

GrannyGravy13

I thought all of the Leaders put up a poor show.

Nothing they said gave me any confidence for the future.

This is depressing isn’t it?
And across the pond we (or rather they) have a choice between Biden and Trump.
No hope anywhere.

Oreo Fri 21-Jun-24 09:28:40

Just watched it all when having breakfast.
Galaxy your summing up matches mine, and some of LizzieDrip too.
KS put up a very poor show on the ‘what is a woman’ question I was very disappointed with him, clearly not wanting to alienate the trans lobby he managed to alienate 50% of voters, women!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Jun-24 09:15:47

I thought all of the Leaders put up a poor show.

Nothing they said gave me any confidence for the future.

Anniebach Fri 21-Jun-24 09:09:45

Fiona Bruce shut up. Not interested in SNP, Davey so proud of
his betrayal.

LizzieDrip Fri 21-Jun-24 09:09:20

Agreed Casdon. They all want to take over the interview, and score points over the interviewee. This doesn’t make good listening, particularly when the questions are from the audience.

In last night’s programme, Bruce should have shut up and passed the issue back to the questioner for further comment / interrogation etc. She did that on a just a couple of occasions - and it was much more effective than her constant interruptions.

As you say Casdon, surely we can do better!

Galaxy Fri 21-Jun-24 09:09:03

Starmers response to the gender debate was awful. Deeply deeply sexist. Thank goodness he knows the truth when its spoken by Blair but not by the women in his party. I dont know how much longer I can hold my nose and vote for them.

Primrose53 Fri 21-Jun-24 09:06:09

David49

In fairness Starmer couldn’t be seen to “rubbish” Corbyn, he has got a lot of Corbyn supporters in the party in the circumstances he did as well as can be expected.

Because it looks like Labour will get a landslide, how much influence will the left have, how long will Starmer last as leader?.

Pollsters said that last time and Labour had worst defeat since WWII. 😉