Tories - rotten to the end

Allsorts

I think such things minor compared to someone that fought two elections supporting Corbyn who supports Hamas. Farage now a Putin supporter. Try living there, the Russians would give anything to have a democracy.

Oh for heaven's sake, is there no end to your apologies for these people? Frankly, your post is rather silly.

I have a daughter who became a citizen of her adopted Scandinavian country this year. She has decided not to vote in the British election as she feels that it's not appropriate for people to make decisions which affect others but not themselves.
As an aside, I love your idea of a parliamentary Ofsted, Mollygo - oh please, please, can I apply for the inspectorate?
I promise to be robust in my judgements.

In a survey carried out earlier this month the voting intentions of the over 65s were:

Reform 25%
Tories 33%
Labour 23%

With a bit of luck the first two will more or less cancel each other out.

We're emigrants and our proxies and postal votes have been organised. Labour of course.

They can’t really get much lower can they?

How on earth anyone is prepared to vote for such immoral, corrupt government is beyond me.

Apparently the conservatives have just launched a series of digital ads telling people the outcome of the election is already known - so they don’t have to bother to vote. (Labour Party source, but read

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/22/britain-general-election-polls-uncertainty-tories-outcome-vote

"Particularly when it is reinforced by a cynical voter suppression strategy from the Tory party telling people the outcome is known so they don’t have to bother to vote"

The worst of all worlds - winning by decimating those who vote at all, already at low levels.

Granny23

I agree that the MPs and their staff, who used their insider information to scam the Bookies are immoral. But I also think they are thick as 3 short planks in being unable to think up a way of doing this without being found out. I am sure that if they set their mind to it the average Gransnetter could, within 5 minutes, come up with a cunning plan, (probably involving a friend, neighbour or relative placing the bets and sharing the ill-gotten gains).

It’s not just immoral but illegal to use insider knowledge to place bets, including in the way you suggest.

Callistemon213

A lot of countries allow their overseas citizens to vote in elections.

Presumably this was just bring the UK in line with others.

The Bill was presented to Parliament and the House of Lords and was passed, becoming the Elections Act 2022.

The UK allowed overseas citizens to vote in elections, but only if they had left the UK 15 years or fewer before. After 15 years, no vote.

I bet that the Elections Act 2022 has the voter ID requirement in it, too. Tories trying to fiddle the vote in their favour. Which Rees Mogg actually admitted later 😁

I expect thats been happening too.....

I agree that the MPs and their staff, who used their insider information to scam the Bookies are immoral. But I also think they are thick as 3 short planks in being unable to think up a way of doing this without being found out. I am sure that if they set their mind to it the average Gransnetter could, within 5 minutes, come up with a cunning plan, (probably involving a friend, neighbour or relative placing the bets and sharing the ill-gotten gains).

Whatever the result of the voting in the GE it's those of us who live in this country who must abide by that result.
Those who live abroad should not be voting as they don't have to live with the consequences. Totally wrong.

A lot of countries allow their overseas citizens to vote in elections.

Presumably this was just bring the UK in line with others.

The Bill was presented to Parliament and the House of Lords and was passed, becoming the Elections Act 2022.

Casdon

Oh no.
news.sky.com/story/many-more-people-investigated-over-election-betting-claims-13157425

Real sleaze, I cannot think why they think it's OK - or care if it will damage their own party. It will give Sunak a tough time next week.

Haha! A lot more has been added since I composed my comment. However, my point still stands.

Nanna8. Some time back, I had a discussion with someone who still holds a British passport, but took their family to Australia over 30 years ago. I can't see them living in the UK again as there are now a total of 4 generations living in there. They thought Brexit was a good idea. But it didn't affect them and look how that turned out!

While people are entitled to their opinion, acting on them to vote in a place where it will not impact them personally, is a totally selfish and vexatious idea.

Farage is a case in point. He needs to feel relevant and will say whatever it takes to keep himself in the spotlight. It boosts his ego as he is a grifter like Trump. If you and others think he and his Reform company will be good for the country, you are sadly mistaken.

LizzieDrip

I stand corrected regarding my incorrect use of the word immigrant Callistemon213.

👍

It was something that passed me by, LizzieDrip, until nanna8 mentioned it.
I doubt my DD will be voting as they don't think it's right.

Mamardoit

dragonfly46

Not sure about MPs but surely most civil servants have degrees.

That doesn't make them more honest and trustworthy. It would appear it gives them over inflated egos and a massive sense of entitlement.

Does it mean they are exceptionally intelligent? Probably not.

You are also getting confused between career civil servants and SPADS, political party officials and MPs/candidates.

dragonfly46

Not sure about MPs but surely most civil servants have degrees.

That doesn't make them more honest and trustworthy. It would appear it gives them over inflated egos and a massive sense of entitlement.

Does it mean they are exceptionally intelligent? Probably not.

The betting stuff has been going on for years, One of my DC works in political circles and has to follow betting odds to write up some of his reports. He says bets are going on all the time - next pm, next cabinet minster to resign, next Home secretary etc etc. Many of the bets are by insider knowledge - one example - in the time of Johnson, the husband of a cabinet minister bet on next cabinet minster to resign the day before his wife resigned! The company accepted the bet, the story was never leaked as it would look bad for the company and the ministers husband. But it wasn’t illegal and he made a few ££s. So this latest story is nothing new. It’s sleazy and not a good look in an election campaign.

Oh no.
news.sky.com/story/many-more-people-investigated-over-election-betting-claims-13157425

Callistemon213 I’m not only thinking about Australia & New Zealand, although I think many of the emigrants 😉 there may be ‘typical, older’ right wing voters. I’m also thinking about the thousands (possibility hundreds of thousands) of UK emigrants who have lived in Spain for many years.

MaizieD

Isn't it too late to register to vote in this GE?

Or does the time limit not apply in the case of British citizens abroad?

Yes it's too late to register but if you are already registered as an overseas voter, the registration lasts for three years before it has to be renewed.

I stand corrected regarding my incorrect use of the word immigrant Callistemon213.

😁
Hot under the collar more like.

I'm not sure what LizzieDrip means because we've lost so many doctors, nurses skilled people to Australia and New Zealand, some might return if they found working conditions here had become better.

Got you talking. Actually I am still thinking about it . People in the UK want me to vote to ‘assist’ with getting the Tories out and I am registered but haven’t yet voted. I don’t actually like any of them so in the end may not bother. We’ll see. One vote won’t make any diff anyway.

Emigrants LizzieDrip

Immigrants come to the UK.
Emigrants leave.

Given the general demographic of these immigrants, I’m not surprised the 15 year rule was abolished by the Tories!

Young to middle-aged?