What immediate changes will the new Labour government make?

I've just read the BBC report on the PPE. It's just scandalous, the waste, the profit made by individuals and the lack of transparency is sickening. We were being governed by idiots.

Yvette Cooper welcoming them at Dover, Wonder if she will be holding up her sign.

vegansrock

AverageObserver
6 hours ago
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When the next Tory apologist says that Labour 'left a note in 2010...', they need to be informed that the Tories have made that very much worse.

National debt in 2010: 70.0% of GDP
National debt in 2023: 100.3% of GDP

Why’s that?
Oh yes, furlough. That cost the exchequer a mere 70 billion pounds.
Then £400 given to every household in the country to offset energy bills. Over nine billion in energy support during the energy crisis. Pensioners received more support the following year for their energy and households with low incomes received cost of living support of £300 for three years.
I don’t care for this government but please don’t ignore the cost of what has been done.
Too many short memories.

No. It was Matt Hancock.

No, it was Hancock during the pandemic.

It was Hunt, though, who presided over the failure to properly manage the emergency PPE stockpiles so that much of it was unusable when it was desperately needed.

And the minister who was in charge of all that PPE is now Chancellor isn’t he?

Another galling thing - all the “ increased spending on the NHS” the Tories claim - includes all those PPE contracts

Germanshepherdsmum

vegansrock

AverageObserver
6 hours ago
17

When the next Tory apologist says that Labour 'left a note in 2010...', they need to be informed that the Tories have made that very much worse.

National debt in 2010: 70.0% of GDP
National debt in 2023: 100.3% of GDP

Effect of pandemic?

The 'national debt' figure has been rising steadily over the past 14 years. If people persist in using it as an indicator of economic confidence they are really, IMO, looking in the wrong direction.

The key measure of whether the 'debt' is a serious concern or not is, I think, to ask what it has been spent on. The most concerning thing about the current figure is that there is very little to show it has been spent into the public sector for the benefit of the whole country.

The pandemic

I have just been reading an extraordinary story on the BBC web site about pandemic spending on PPE.

It concerns government spending on PPE from a completely bona fide and experienced (some 20 yrs+) supplier. It starts off well. The supplier saw early on that PPE would be in short supply so upped its orders, massively early in the pandemic. For its foresight it was 'rewarded' with a £1.78 billion contract to supply PPE.

So far, so good (though one wonders how they got this eyewateringly huge contract when other bona fide suppliers were ignored). But, the BBC have found that some£1.4 billions worth if this PPE has not been used. One has to ask why not?

Some of this unused PPE, 15.5 thousand pallets, was sold to an unnamed buyer by the NHS (one might ask how much they sold it for?), was stored at a farm for a while and was destroyed last year on the instructions of the Environment Agency. Other items were destroyed by the NHS (at a cost to public money, of course.)

This is a staggering story of profligate spending and waste.

(The owners of the PPE company bought themselves a house on Barbados, a house in the UK, a yacht and an equestrian centre with their profit from the contract... which makes me wonder if this PPE was overpriced to start with..)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cll476qzm85o

Just one example of where the money comprising the 'national debt' has gone... certainly not for the benefit of the country...

Effect of Brexit - don’t forget to add that in

And didn’t we get a lot of help with energy bills and the cost of living?

vegansrock

AverageObserver
6 hours ago
17

When the next Tory apologist says that Labour 'left a note in 2010...', they need to be informed that the Tories have made that very much worse.

National debt in 2010: 70.0% of GDP
National debt in 2023: 100.3% of GDP

Effect of pandemic?

Curtaintwitcher

I think people will very quickly see what a hopeless leader Starmer is and the Labour party will replace him.

I think this next government will be a caretaker one and it won't be long before another election is called.

Hopefully this will give the Tories time to get themselves sorted out, ready to take over the reins again.

Changing party leaders on a regular basis is quite a recent political phenomenon which seems to have been instigated by the ‘strong and stable’ Conservative Party. I wonder who their next leader will be because several of the fancied ones are in danger of losing their seats. Having morphed into UKIP I fear that, by the time of the next election they will have morphed into Reform.

The Labour Party seem far more stable than the Tories have been - all those predictions that they will fall apart without the Tories is ridiculous - a bit like those people who claimed the EU was about to collapse in 2016 without the UK.

I think people will very quickly see what a hopeless leader Starmer is and the Labour party will replace him.

I think this next government will be a caretaker one and it won't be long before another election is called.

Hopefully this will give the Tories time to get themselves sorted out, ready to take over the reins again.

AverageObserver
6 hours ago
17

When the next Tory apologist says that Labour 'left a note in 2010...', they need to be informed that the Tories have made that very much worse.

National debt in 2010: 70.0% of GDP
National debt in 2023: 100.3% of GDP

KG1241 most of us feel doom and gloom under the conservatives

Thank you Maisie D

Rates shot up in 2012.

Mamardoit

Wyllow3

" Then some will be off to Uni and paying huge tuition fees which Labour brought in "

Top rate under labour was £3000 pa

If the Conservatives are/were so much against them, how come they are now £9,250 and they've done nothing?

The Lib Dems had a hand in the increased tuition fees. Despite promising to abolish them.

It's not just the amount of the fees. It's the high interest rates which accrue from day one. Not that that will bother a young Blair, Clegg, Cameron or any that follow them.

The interest rates used to be really low and that was at a time when you got good interest rates on savings accounts. Then, without really being informed about it the rates shot up dramatically.

Glad its all coming out the appalling legacy left.

I can only see doom & gloom if/when Labour get in, I will be voting for the Conservatives.

Just now watching the undercover Despatches programme on the NHS A&E at Royal Shrewsbury. Utterly appalling result of Tory lack of care for the NHS and its emergency patients.

Primrose and by stating they are ripping up their trans policy that means that they will be pushing it? I think not! Maybe the DoE might like to pull its finger out and sort out the RAAC issue in schools pdq and the backlog of SEN assessments, then teachers like my poor daughter wouldn’t be teaching 4/5 year olds in a class of 33, with 7 SEN children and 1 LSA!

Cossy

Primrose53

Labour will push their Trans agenda with primary school kids. Wouldn’t you think they have better things to do.
Leave our kids alone! 😥

You have absolutely no evidence to support that or any other “pushing” of policies at chikdren!

Said on the news tonight they are ripping up their Trans plans 😉

Primrose53

Labour will push their Trans agenda with primary school kids. Wouldn’t you think they have better things to do.
Leave our kids alone! 😥

You have absolutely no evidence to support that or any other “pushing” of policies at chikdren!