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Today is the 8th anniversary of the vote to leave the EU

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-24 18:10:56

And the U.K. is so much the poorer for it, both economically and socially.

Norah Sun 23-Jun-24 21:16:34

This ^

keepingquiet Sun 23-Jun-24 21:14:58

Oreo

I wasn’t totally surprised as where I live and where I work so many were going to vote to leave the EU.
Can’t say I’ve noticed any changes since, either for better or for worse.

What planet are you on? Are you saying your life/savings/wages/pension/grocery shopping/fuel bills/taxes etc etc are still the same?

Can I come and live where you are please?

Oreo Sun 23-Jun-24 21:09:22

I wasn’t totally surprised as where I live and where I work so many were going to vote to leave the EU.
Can’t say I’ve noticed any changes since, either for better or for worse.

M0nica Sun 23-Jun-24 20:59:14

Curtaintwitcher

I was sure that 'Remain' would win, so I was over the moon when the result was 'Leave'. However, we still haven't truly left, we're in a state of limbo at the moment.

Now that the so-called 'Far Right' are gaining strength in Europe, things might change. Either the EU will collapse altogether or it might morph into an organisation which we might be happy to be a part of.

I still don't understand why so many of you are quite happy to have someone like Ursula VDL being able to dictate to us. Where is your self-respect?

Nobody was able to dictate to us. We were part of the EU, we had British cicvil servants, diplomats and MEPs in every decision, making body in the EU and our views were as important as that of any other country.

Ursula VDL was no more able to dictate to us than anyone else.

I find it strange how people who talk up democracy in this country and willing accept government by the majority party, even though many constuencies voted for an MP from a different party, all of a sudden, when they look at the EU and see a system where all the different countries (equivalent to parties) get together to reach consensus decisions somehow see that as 'dictatorship' confused , very confused

Siope Sun 23-Jun-24 20:30:00

Dreadful act of self-harm.

petra I get proof every month, when my US pensions hit my British bank accounts, just how wrong you are. It was true for a while, and I remain grateful to Trump for all my economic stimulus payments, but those days are long gone.

NannyJan53 Sun 23-Jun-24 20:26:28

The biggest self harm that the UK has ever inflicted on itself.

HousePlantQueen Sun 23-Jun-24 20:20:02

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree AGA. I will never forget the shock and disbelief that morning.

Yes, I remember it well. When Sunderland declared out, I knew it was over.

flappergirl Sun 23-Jun-24 20:14:41

There is no plan and there's no extra money. If anyone on here would like to explain one or more new trade deals since Brexit along with their advantage over a ready made market of millions on our doorstep, please enlighten me. I have asked this question often of Brexiteers and answers are very thin on the ground. It's almost as if they don't know what they're talking about.

LizzieDrip Sun 23-Jun-24 20:14:30

That night is etched in my memory! I went to bed saying to DH ‘don’t worry, the British people will never vote to leave the EU’. How wrong I wassad

DH stayed up all night and when he told me the result the following morning I cried - not for me but for my grandchildren and for the future of my country.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 23-Jun-24 20:02:48

I agree AGA. I will never forget the shock and disbelief that morning.

AGAA4 Sun 23-Jun-24 19:57:25

I remember being in shock when we had the result. A complete disaster. Remainers knew what was coming and it has. Things are so much worse.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-24 19:31:27

Syracute

Thanks White Wave !

My pleasure🙂🌞

Syracute Sun 23-Jun-24 19:27:49

Thanks White Wave !

Dinahmo Sun 23-Jun-24 19:27:22

Jaxjacky

We were living in Françe and had proxy votes to remain, I met a friend fuelling his car at Carrefour, as was I, we both ranted at the stupidity.
A lot of Brits in Françe voted to leave, boy are they regretting it now.

I've never understood that. It resulted in a group of Brits in my village falling out big time because one lot were in favour of Brexit and called the other lot traitors. Even now there's one who moved to this area from Eastern France who is still saying he would vote for Brexit.

Syracute Sun 23-Jun-24 19:26:47

Where are your facts on this !? The USA economy is much improved .

HousePlantQueen Sun 23-Jun-24 19:25:03

Curtaintwitcher

I was sure that 'Remain' would win, so I was over the moon when the result was 'Leave'. However, we still haven't truly left, we're in a state of limbo at the moment.

Now that the so-called 'Far Right' are gaining strength in Europe, things might change. Either the EU will collapse altogether or it might morph into an organisation which we might be happy to be a part of.

I still don't understand why so many of you are quite happy to have someone like Ursula VDL being able to dictate to us. Where is your self-respect?

Europe is not lurching to the right.

My self respect is fine thank you,knowing that I was not guillible and did not vote for Brexit.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-24 19:22:08

petra

Whitewavemark2

So far it has cost the U.K. £140bn which will rise to £315bn by next decade.

It is a complete disaster.

The U.K. is the only rich nation to still remain poorer since covid.

Wrong!! The USA is in a far worse situation than us.

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

Q2 2023 growth GDP 2%

Q3 2023 growth GDP 5%

Q4 2023 growth GDP 3%

Q1 2024 growth GDP 1.5%

Now compare that to the U.K.

Q3 2023 growth GDP 0.1%

Q4 2023 growth GDP 0.3%

Q1 2024 growth GDP 0.2%

petra Sun 23-Jun-24 19:10:13

Whitewavemark2

So far it has cost the U.K. £140bn which will rise to £315bn by next decade.

It is a complete disaster.

The U.K. is the only rich nation to still remain poorer since covid.

Wrong!! The USA is in a far worse situation than us.

M0nica Sun 23-Jun-24 19:09:47

One of the many groups who supported Brexit (and the Conservatives) were farmers.

I have noticed in this election that wherever I go, and I have travelled a distane in the last few weeks, all those fields that used to always have Conservative posters on sticks, now have Liberal Democratic posters. We have not seen a single field with a Conservative poster.

The agricultural community has clearly had a big rethink on Brexit.

aggie Sun 23-Jun-24 19:06:38

And our government is so clear and clever , they lead us so well ! Wait a minute , I was asleep and dreaming “ 😴

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-24 19:04:39

So far it has cost the U.K. £140bn which will rise to £315bn by next decade.

It is a complete disaster.

The U.K. is the only rich nation to still remain poorer since covid.

Curtaintwitcher Sun 23-Jun-24 19:02:03

I was sure that 'Remain' would win, so I was over the moon when the result was 'Leave'. However, we still haven't truly left, we're in a state of limbo at the moment.

Now that the so-called 'Far Right' are gaining strength in Europe, things might change. Either the EU will collapse altogether or it might morph into an organisation which we might be happy to be a part of.

I still don't understand why so many of you are quite happy to have someone like Ursula VDL being able to dictate to us. Where is your self-respect?

BlueBelle Sun 23-Jun-24 18:59:39

Worst day of UK s life and anyone who can’t see that must need their brains testing
I could have cried,probably did, knew it was a disaster waiting to happen so blooming frustrating that so many were carried along to disaster
Primrose included

Jaxjacky Sun 23-Jun-24 18:56:03

We were living in Françe and had proxy votes to remain, I met a friend fuelling his car at Carrefour, as was I, we both ranted at the stupidity.
A lot of Brits in Françe voted to leave, boy are they regretting it now.

Grannybags Sun 23-Jun-24 18:49:29

Nightmare. Anyone noticed any benefits?