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Princess Anne incident

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Joseann Mon 24-Jun-24 12:45:29

I'm reading this from abroad, so hope some can confirm.
'The Princess Royal has sustained minor injuries and concussion following an incident on the Gatcombe Park estate yesterday evening.
Is it a riding accident or a fall?

Calendargirl Mon 01-Jul-24 16:33:16

Calendargirl

^which is why royals find it difficult to find partners^

I don’t think most of them find it difficult. Whether they always find the right one is another story….

Just reading about Lady Louise Windsor. She appears to have a beau, Felix da Silva-Clamp, think that was his name, together at the Royal Windsor Horse Show.

He looked nice.

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 15:55:19

Anniebach

Ghastly Burrell lived in, he gave info to a magazine of the royal
residences he had lived

I agree with your appellation of Mr Burrell.
He obviously found the wages sufficient to continue working for them.

Anniebach Mon 01-Jul-24 15:21:30

Ghastly Burrell lived in, he gave info to a magazine of the royal
residences he had lived

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 15:01:52

The National minimum wage for age 21+ is
£11.44 ph. I don’t know what royal domestic staff get paid but if they live in, or get meals, that’s a bonus. They get statutory holiday pay, and the ability to put down the RF as a previous employer is a valuable asset, unless of course, you've been sacked.
It’s a job at the end of the day.

Iam64 Mon 01-Jul-24 14:58:28

How little we know but yes, my memory is that domestic staff live in

Callistemon213 Mon 01-Jul-24 14:19:01

Iam64

Whoops Callistemon / poorly paid is what I’ve read about some ‘domestic’ staff
Didn’t mean the others

Oh, might be. I was thinking of aides and advisers.

Do some of the staff live in? So board and lodging will be free.

Anniebach Mon 01-Jul-24 11:41:14

The late Queen didn’t walk around with others in hats, in a Cathedral she would have been escorted by the Arch Bishop /
Bishop/Dean and been last in first out,

Iam64 Mon 01-Jul-24 11:30:18

Whoops Callistemon / poorly paid is what I’ve read about some ‘domestic’ staff
Didn’t mean the others

Joseann Mon 01-Jul-24 11:14:30

* marmalade

Joseann Mon 01-Jul-24 11:13:28

My DH fluffed his Cambridge entrance because he spent too much time singing and working back stage in his school's theatre!
I think vegansrock does have a point that 8 year old boys might think royals in hats look similar, though the late Queen's handbag could have given a clue - with or without a narmalade sandwich!

vegansrock Mon 01-Jul-24 10:59:21

I wasn’t on a. High horse when
I mentioned my younger DS’ education it was a response to those who criticised his “ not having a good education” I wonder how many 8 year olds would recognise individual members of the royal family when they are walking around in an entourage all
wearing hats and similar outfits. Being a chorister in a cathedral choir was a bit of an odd life, but it enabled him to later get a choral scholarship to Cambridge. They did give him a great musical education .

Jaberwok Mon 01-Jul-24 10:38:19

And a very old fashioned expression. No one forces anyone to work for anyone else including the RF. They are staff, as in working employees.
My late uncle won a Choir Scholarship to New College School in Oxford, way back when. This same Scholarship took him through Magdalene College up to 18. Not sure if they offer that any more, but an excellent singing voice covered the whole of his education.

Callistemon213 Mon 01-Jul-24 10:02:15

No, they're not poorly paid and many are highly educated with great organisational skills, needed to keep The Firm running smoothly.
Most members of the Royal Family treat their aides and staff with respect although there are always one or two who may not, usually those who have married into the RF. A notable one who treated staff very badly and caused a lit to be upset has recently departed thank goodness.

Flunkies is a ridiculous word.

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 09:31:19

David49
Possibly those you’re referring to as flunkies would be offended by your terminology.
Who knows if they perform their work obsequiously?
As for being poorly paid, I don’t have any insider knowledge. They aren’t exiting their jobs in droves, so who knows?

Their jobs are like GNs employing a cleaner or a gardener or paying someone to deliver your shopping. Would you refer to them in derogatory terms like flunkies too?

Iam64 Mon 01-Jul-24 09:04:57

It’s is Annie. Presumably, the (poorly paid) employees have worked hard to be given employment

Anniebach Mon 01-Jul-24 08:26:49

Flunkies is a horrible word

Calendargirl Mon 01-Jul-24 07:03:38

which is why royals find it difficult to find partners

I don’t think most of them find it difficult. Whether they always find the right one is another story….

David49 Mon 01-Jul-24 06:58:52

Germanshepherdsmum

You just don’t understand the lifelong commitment. Be thankful that you weren’t expected to live a life of duty and don’t mock those who are and who understand and honour it.

You live in a goldfish bowl, that’s fine if you like that life, most want privacy and freedom which is why royals find it difficult to find partners.
Most of us would hate having our lives ruled by duty, organised by teams of flunkies

Joseann Mon 01-Jul-24 06:17:26

I'm also a bit surprised that any chorister wouldn't have picked up on the words in The Book of Common Prayer, in which members of the Royal Family are mentioned individually by name. It wouldn't take much to associate the names with faces, especially if the choristers were told they would be receiving an important visit. So, one of the current prayers used every week in cathedrals for example is:

Almighty God, the fountain of all goodness,we humbly beseech thee to bless,Queen Camilla, William Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales,and all the Royal Family.Endue them with thy Holy Spirit;enrich them with thy heavenly grace;prosper them with all happiness;and bring them to thine everlasting kingdom;through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.

I know all this because DH was, and still is, a chorister!

Joseann Mon 01-Jul-24 06:10:46

vegansrock called it a choir school. These are usually, though not always, independent schools, both boarding and day. Quite often a chorister's education may be subsidised by the cathedral.
There have been recent changes where some cathedrals draw from a range of local schools for choristers, but this isn't quite as effective because the children aren't readily available for rehearsals and services.
Choristers are always told what important service they are preparing for. The singing is not taught in isolation, so some history on the important visitors attending would be included.

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 05:49:40

Anniebach

Was it a school ?

Could have been just the cathedral choir. We were always told who important visitors were.

Anniebach Sun 30-Jun-24 20:35:13

Was it a school ?

Mollygo Sun 30-Jun-24 20:25:43

RosiesMaw

Now who’s practising high altitude equitation?

The comment I made was about the educational establishment, not the child.
If they didn’t know who the visitors were, it reflects badly on the school. As vegansrock says, her 8 year old may not have been aware of the royal family members.

RosiesMaw Sun 30-Jun-24 19:56:44

vegansrock

I understand lifelong commitment, I just question the need for the type of commitment of hand shaking - is it necessary? Could the country could manage without it? ( yes)
To those who claim my DS had a poor education - Yes, the choir school must have slipped up in my DSs education in recognising royals when aged about 8. Shame he only got a 1st at Cambridge.

Now who’s practising high altitude equitation?

Anniebach Sun 30-Jun-24 19:43:19

Aw a little choir boy