Are you two the best we can do?

Inspirational leader further back that 25 years ?

I cannot think of any inspirational leaders for the last 25 years or so. I had hopes for Tony Blair, but they all seem to let us down eventually.

I just want to get rid of the tories and wouldn’t particularly care if a chimpanzee was labour leader atm! (Joke, lighthearted). We need to think of the most vulnerable in society and try to create a just country and to my mind the tories have increased social unfairness in all areas.

Oreo

Depends what you call ‘affordable’ private renting can never take the place of social housing, unless you’re saying these are actual council flats? It may make a small difference in your local area but council homes are needed in vast quantities countrywide.

Our local housing association is commissioning a lot of new affordable homes for low wage workers who cannot afford to buy, my son in law and his wife both working, got one after only 3 months on the list, I think it’s about 2/3 market rent.

A mutual housing association gets big tax concessions so compared to private renters has big advantages. CGT never happens and any rent received funds other new properties.

We need more social housing very badly indeed.

TakeThat7 you can look up Labour Housing policy in detail by googling their manifesto.

Is your council financing the building of the flats or a housing association wwm?

Depends what you call ‘affordable’ private renting can never take the place of social housing, unless you’re saying these are actual council flats? It may make a small difference in your local area but council homes are needed in vast quantities countrywide.

We have a labour council and there a large number of affordable for rent flats being built in the centre. That should make a huge dent in the homeless queue, as well as those seeking to leave their familial home

Being able to buy your council house came in under a Conservative government didn’t it? Mrs T as PM.
It may have been thought a good thing at the time and am sure those who had London council houses were well happy, the money they made by selling them as soon as they could.
Wha a gigantic mistake it all was, social housing has always been needed and now more than for a long time.Councils allowed the new owners to sell and failed to keep on building enough new ones.

TakeThat7

Yes waste of a question Id like to know if labour are making it more difficult to buy council houses as mentioned a few weeks back

This is one thing that should be stopped, Scotland can do it, so can we. We need our social housing.

TakeThat7

Sorry are labour actually putting social housing out of reach of more tennants by reducing the disbount or what Ive never been able to own a house and rents were way too expensive when labour were in power and prospect of working class minimum wage people like me getting to own a house just as unlikely as now What do labour plan

So how has your life improved over the last 14 years of Tory government?

Sorry are labour actually putting social housing out of reach of more tennants by reducing the disbount or what Ive never been able to own a house and rents were way too expensive when labour were in power and prospect of working class minimum wage people like me getting to own a house just as unlikely as now What do labour plan

I would prefer the "5 mins each" situation with mute buttons.

I disliked the debate because Sunak and Starmer talked over each other all the time especially Sunak.

In 2012 the Conservatives

"In April 2012, the government changed the maximum cash discount available for Right to Buy sales to a new higher level of £75,000 across England."

In Labour current policy

Reviewing the increased right-to-buy discounts introduced in 2012 and increasing protections on newly-built social housing"

Angela Raynor bought hers but it was on the news they are considering reducing the discount allowed

Yes waste of a question Id like to know if labour are making it more difficult to buy council houses as mentioned a few weeks back

Agree about the Social Care question.

Paddy O’Connell on bbc news currently, he shares the majority view here, the question was not polite. He’s asking for more manners -excellentb

I can't work out why the BBC even allowed this question.

For a start, as others have said, it was downright rude. I thought we are all supposed to treat each other with dignity and respect however angry and frustrated we feel.

Of course many of us are disappointed with the politicians we have had to put up with for the past 20-30 years. There's even been a book written about this, by Isobel Hardman I think.

It was a pointless question if it was a question, rather than an observation. We've got the politicians we've got and we just have to get on with it.

I'd like to have had a question about social care as that would have put the leaders on the spot.

RosesandLilac

I think he was asking what I, and many others, are thinking. Rude or not it’s certainly no worse than the insults they sling at each other across the chamber at the HoC!

Ah but that’s the difference, they are “slinging them at each other”, not that I applaud their often schoolboy behaviour

Labradora

I'm astonished that anyone at all wants to be PM these days. Two MPs murdered in the last five years. MPs receiving online threats and abuse of every and the most serious kind.Wouldn't vote for Farage in a million years but throwing things at him ? This is not good stuff.
I had a look at Wes Streeting's Wiki yesterday and its most impressive. Apparently he'd like to be PM. I hope he gets the chance someday. ..... and that I live long enough to see it of course .
Any country is better off without Trump as a candidate.

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Very rude and totally unnecessary, we are where we are, and no going back!

You think Starmer is being controlled by senior figures in the labour party? Who are these mysterious figures?

I think he was asking what I, and many others, are thinking. Rude or not it’s certainly no worse than the insults they sling at each other across the chamber at the HoC!

I'm astonished that anyone at all wants to be PM these days. Two MPs murdered in the last five years. MPs receiving online threats and abuse of every and the most serious kind.Wouldn't vote for Farage in a million years but throwing things at him ? This is not good stuff.
I had a look at Wes Streeting's Wiki yesterday and its most impressive. Apparently he'd like to be PM. I hope he gets the chance someday. ..... and that I live long enough to see it of course .
Any country is better off without Trump as a candidate.