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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:54:34

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

I thought that it isn’t very well mannered to talk about your personal finances.

Something we never do.

My Mum would have said it's common to talk about money and boast about how much you've earned. hmm

And mine.

Never ever boast or even talk about your finances, because you may be talking to someone not so well off and that was a very bad thing to do.

I feel the same. I’m the same with everything - I avoid like the plague anything that I feel is ostentatious, or name dropping etc. No one needs to know about how wealthy I am or not.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:45:27

MaizieD

^Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.^

Now why get the second hand version of the horrors in store when you can hear it for real as Michael Green channels Allister Heath of the Daily Telegraph.
(yes, he's reading it word for word...)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCtzapQY1M8

Isn't that Grant Shapps' alter ego?

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:43:22

GrannyGravy13

^greedy and grabby^

bricking it

Zakouma66 how eloquent.

Well, it would challenge "gob on a stick".

Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 04-Jul-24 19:42:59

Whitewavemark2

I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️

I know what you mean. I’m waiting for 10 pm and the first exit polls. I may have a glass of something alcoholic to calm my nerves and another one later if it all pans out!

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:41:47

Whitewavemark2

I thought that it isn’t very well mannered to talk about your personal finances.

Something we never do.

My Mum would have said it's common to talk about money and boast about how much you've earned. hmm

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:39:38

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

So if Peter Hitchins has changed, why couldn't Starmer?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:38:33

I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️

MayBee70 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:37:56

Germanshepherdsmum

zakouma66

One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy

Bet all you greedy, grabby types are bricking it then.

I thought you said you don’t have any money? Are you calling anyone who does greedy and grabby?

I think only us common types understand what she means ( I I’m going to adopt it as my mantra)…

Iam64 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:36:06

Casdon

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.

And was nobody ever a youthful enthusiast? My lovely brother in law was a Marxist when my sister first brought him home to meet the family. They were first year degree students - her Theology and him Philosophy. Fortunately our parents didn’t panic. They were married for almost 50 very happy years. Both teachers.
Two of my closest friends were communist party members. Still happily married, children with successful careers, happy grandchildren etc. He runs a hugely successful business. Both self employed
So let’s not panic that youthful Starmer was idealistic, let’s hope some of that stays with him

HousePlantQueen Thu 04-Jul-24 19:34:37

zakouma66

*One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy*

Bet all you greedy, grabby types are bricking it then.

gringringrin

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 19:34:30

Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.

Now why get the second hand version of the horrors in store when you can hear it for real as Michael Green channels Allister Heath of the Daily Telegraph.
(yes, he's reading it word for word...)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCtzapQY1M8

Tenko Thu 04-Jul-24 19:24:50

No

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:20:19

I thought that it isn’t very well mannered to talk about your personal finances.

Something we never do.

zakouma66 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:18:21

GrannyGravy13

^greedy and grabby^

bricking it

Zakouma66 how eloquent.

Cheers!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:17:26

greedy and grabby

bricking it

Zakouma66 how eloquent.

Casdon Thu 04-Jul-24 19:14:25

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 19:14:10

zakouma66

*One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy*

Bet all you greedy, grabby types are bricking it then.

I thought you said you don’t have any money? Are you calling anyone who does greedy and grabby?

Freya5 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:10:49

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

ronib Thu 04-Jul-24 19:09:27

zakouma66 that’s crazy talk…..

zakouma66 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:07:51

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Iam64 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:00:30

Freya yes I remember the Blair years well. Not perfect streets ahead of the last 14 dismal years.

Angela Rayner is a role model for the teenage girls who were enthusiastic members of the Girls Groups I ran with a colleague. One of them got a degree and works therapeutically with LAC chikdren and adult survivors.
Not everybody has an easy childhood, some grow and develop despite adversity. Angela is one of them

Freya5 Thu 04-Jul-24 18:59:36

Mouse

Under the last Labour government there were 35 food banks. Under the current (not for long) Tory government there are 3,572. They should be ashamed.

Let us put this into perspective, it is not just us facing higher food prices, it is a world wide problem. In Germany since 2023 the people using food banks has risen to over 12%, so around 2 million people in 2023 using them. Can't send link as my tablet does not let me, but easily Googled.
So ,if Starmer forms next Gov he'll have no say in world economics.

Wyllow3 Thu 04-Jul-24 18:49:34

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

Freya5 Thu 04-Jul-24 18:48:12

Iam64

I’m in the being realistic gang maddyone. I’d be negative and anxious if I thought we were about to elect another Conservative government. The total lack of concern for public services, the push towards privatisation has caused real damage. It will take years to re-build.

You do remember Blair increased privatisation, dont you?

Freya5 Thu 04-Jul-24 18:38:58

JenniferEccles

A sense of impending doom at the thought of a large Labour majority? Most definitely yes.
I’m quite certain Starmer will show his true colours pretty quickly when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late.

All of us on here are old enough to have lived through changes of government over the years, some we’ve voted for, others we most definitely haven’t and we’ve lived to tell the tale.

I’m trying to be philosophical about the current situation, but probably not succeeding.

One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy.

As I am thinking, you said it much better than I could, just hoping its not a massive majority, if they get in and they can be kept under a tight rein.