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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

MayBee70 Thu 04-Jul-24 13:19:16

sandelf

Rishi has just had time to get to know how it all works, and the youth and health to be a good leader for a while - why don't we see that???

I think you’ll find that the reason he called the election was because his own party was plotting to remove him and foist yet another unelected PM onto us.

LizzieDrip Thu 04-Jul-24 13:07:17

saw an article today saying if you own a house have savings and a pension your doomed so time to sell house and spend I suspect

HomeAgain could you tell me where you saw the article?

Pantglas2 Thu 04-Jul-24 13:06:09

Mouse

Under the last Labour government there were 35 food banks. Under the current (not for long) Tory government there are 3,572. They should be ashamed.

Without people like you wanting to support your local community, our food bank network simply wouldn’t exist.

All the food banks in the Trussell Trust network are created in partnership with local churches and community organisations. They’re best placed to understand local needs, and we provide them with the tools, training, and knowledge to start a food bank.

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“How the network began

The first food bank in our network was created in a garden shed and garage in Salisbury in 2000. Seeing how many people needed emergency food, we carried out research into the UK-wide need for food banks and discovered that this was a nationwide problem.”

The above is a quote from Trussel Trust website.

Why would there be a need for food banks under a Labour government who’d been in power for three years, when they could’ve thrown money at those in need?

Just to muddy the waters, when I bought mis Casa in rural Spain in 2011 there were no food banks or charity shops in our little town. Within three years we had two of each, all run by Brits, under a socialist government! Go figure!

sandelf Thu 04-Jul-24 13:00:10

Rishi has just had time to get to know how it all works, and the youth and health to be a good leader for a while - why don't we see that???

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 12:58:00

Nicenanny3

12:41growstuff

Errrmm! And?

MayBee70 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:55:46

No matter who’s in power there’s nothing to stop anyone from contacting MP’s. They don’t have to be your own MP although if they aren’t they are under no obligation to reply ( although they often do). If someone does something you disagree with email them. Even more importantly if someone does something you agree with ( especially if it goes against the party line) thank them. Your support will mean a lot to them. I can’t wait to finally feel that I’m represented by the party in power. I only hope my local Labour candidate overturns the huge majority of my current Boris Johnson adoring MP.

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:46:38

12:41growstuff

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 12:41:12

Nicenanny3

12:09growstuff

Nothing after 5 years of a Labour Government, you think it's bad now just wait the whole country will be worse off. That's why posters have a sense of impending doom. The Labour government will soon start to crumble.

Do you have some kind of crystal ball? What evidence is there to support this doom-mongering?

westendgirl Thu 04-Jul-24 12:39:54

I feel much less despondent at the thought of a Labour government. Of course it will take time to untangle the mess the Tories have left .It will also be good to have a PM in charge who puts the country first.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 12:38:57

HomeAgain123

Yes absolutely, saw an article today saying if you own a house have savings and a pension your doomed so time to sell house and spend I suspect 🙈🙈

What's going to happen to home-owning pensioners with savings?

Merion Thu 04-Jul-24 12:37:33

In answer to the opening post.

No. I had a sense of impeding doom in 2010 (Tories won the election), which grew even larger in 2016 (EU referendum) , grew even more in 2019 (Johnson foist upon us) and 2020 (when we left the EU). I simply don't understand why anyone wants more of the same.

Conservative Danny Kruger:

The Tories ‘represent the change’ and Labour ‘would carry on a failed state."

James O'Brien: "That’s got to be the stupidest contribution of the election campaign.”

I dare say there's a lot of competition for that but this was a Tory saying that the Tories have failed the state so please let them carry on.

HomeAgain123 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:34:17

Yes absolutely, saw an article today saying if you own a house have savings and a pension your doomed so time to sell house and spend I suspect 🙈🙈

David49 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:29:52

Flowerette

It’s going to be a challenge like we’ve never seen before
Starmer hasn’t got a bliddy clue
But let them see for themselves
Honeymoon over very quickly no doubt about that

I’m not expecting a honeymoon period but there will be “feelgood” period it’s upto us to make the best of it, those with wealth, wether they are pensioners or not can expect more tax.

Siope Thu 04-Jul-24 12:28:33

Nicenanny3

12:15Siope

Always free at the point of delivery.

Not how the French system works. Definitely not how the US one does. So no, in his own words, many many times, he has said he does not want a free at the point if delivery, universal healthcare system.

I believe he is lying now when he says he does; if you believe he is telling the truth now, you need to acknowledge that he lied repeatedly before. If you want to vote for him regardless, you rock on, but don’t pretend you’re not voting for a liar.

ronib Thu 04-Jul-24 12:20:35

MaizieD lse.ac.uk
A wealth tax for the Uk

Flowerette Thu 04-Jul-24 12:20:05

It’s going to be a challenge like we’ve never seen before
Starmer hasn’t got a bliddy clue
But let them see for themselves
Honeymoon over very quickly no doubt about that

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:16:28

12:15Siope

Always free at the point of delivery.

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 12:16:18

ronib

Any idea about Labour’s wealth tax on pensioners? With hourly fees of £38 and double for the weekend and Bank holidays for home based social care, I wonder how many rich pensioners there are?

Care to cite a source for this 'wealth tax', ronib?

Preferably from a Labour source

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:15:08

12:09growstuff

Nothing after 5 years of a Labour Government, you think it's bad now just wait the whole country will be worse off. That's why posters have a sense of impending doom. The Labour government will soon start to crumble.

Siope Thu 04-Jul-24 12:15:03

For Nicenanny

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/12/film-nigel-farage-insurance-based-nhs-private-companies

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/12/farage-calls-for-private-health-firms-to-relieve-burden-on-nhs

www.facebook.com/ledbydonkeys/videos/exposed-nigel-farage-wants-to-privatise-our-nhs-we-cant-trust-him-or-boris-johns/450916015613893/

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/18/reform-nhs-plan-nigel-farage/

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news-nigel-farage-nhs-privatisation-itv-debate-lie-63732/

www.gbnews.com/opinion/nigel-farage-debate-nhs-reform

He also said, in one of the interminable debates last month, that he thought we should have a similar system to the French, then blatantly lied that it was still free at the point of use, because all upfront costs are refunded by the State. I am sure France based posters will confirm this is not the case for everyone.

ronib Thu 04-Jul-24 12:13:10

Any idea about Labour’s wealth tax on pensioners? With hourly fees of £38 and double for the weekend and Bank holidays for home based social care, I wonder how many rich pensioners there are?

MissAdventure Thu 04-Jul-24 12:12:57

Been trying since lockdown, and the longer it goes, the more I need doing.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 12:10:35

NHS dentists are (almost) free, but have you tried finding one recently?

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 12:09:50

Nicenanny3

Mouse

Careful what you wish for has been said. Those who support reform uk should bear that phrase in mind. Farage says openly that he wants to get rid of the nhs. He does not believe in free at the point of need.

Rubbish Farage said it will always be free at the point of delivery.

Ah! It might very well be free, but what will be left of it?

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 12:07:22

LizzieDrip

*Who is actually voting for Labour in the real world*

Well, nicenanny your question will be answered by the early hours of tomorrow morning.

I don't only go on Reform sites. Yes Labour will win but I haven't seen much enthusiasm for them anywhere.