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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 10:55:09

^ I was never asked if I wanted a "multi cultural " Britain.^

I don't suppose that the forebears of the people who came here as a result of the British Empire were ever asked if they wanted a load of white men to take over their countries, exploit their resources, enslave some of them, impose their culture etc. were ever asked if that was what they wanted.

Iam64 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:54:33

All this grumbling already that a Labour government won’t be able to magic up teachers, dentists or doctors. Surely no-one believes in miracles. What we hope is that a Labour government will attempt to repair the huge damage caused by this government.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 10:53:12

I remember the first 100 days promises too. That will come back to bite them.

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:50:42

If they win, they have inherited a load of problems though

GrannyGravy13 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:49:26

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.

(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)

Where and when did Labour promise that? I think that's a tad hyperbolic!

Having watched Sir Starmer and his Cabinet in waiting say that in the first 100 days of a Labour Government they will have more GP, Hospital and Dentist appointments available.

No hyberbole in my post growstuff

I imagine we will have five years of Labour constantly saying they cannot achieve their manifesto promises due to the problems they inherited.

It happens after every election, the Government of the day blaming the previous encumbrance, for its failings, always has always will.

biglouis Thu 04-Jul-24 10:46:17

I have never forgotten that Blair (the warmonger) encouraged swathes of foreigners into this country - a policy I never got to vote on. I was never asked if I wanted a "multi cultural " Britain.

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 10:44:17

growstuff

The last thing the next government will be is "Corbyn-inspired". confused

They live in a right wing propaganda bubble, growstuff 😂

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:40:12

The last thing the next government will be is "Corbyn-inspired". confused

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:38:36

GrannyGravy13

maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.

(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)

Where and when did Labour promise that? I think that's a tad hyperbolic!

JudyBloom Thu 04-Jul-24 10:36:48

Entirely! I agree with Poppyred and Petra.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 10:32:50

GrannyGravy I’ve been wondering throughout the run up to the election where all the doctors, teachers, and nurses are going to come from, given that it took my daughter twelve years to qualify as a GP, teachers take either three or four years to qualify, nurses the same, and even the most junior doctor (F1 and F2) takes five or six years at university, before they are able to start work as an F1 and a year later an F2. These people are not going to magically appear and be in our surgeries just waiting for the green light from a new government and then hey presto, we’ll all be able to get a GP appointment on the day it is needed.
I suspect we’ll poach some from abroad, which I’ve always thought immoral when their own countries need them so much. But it won’t supply the numbers quoted.

JenniferEccles Thu 04-Jul-24 10:32:13

A sense of impending doom at the thought of a large Labour majority? Most definitely yes.
I’m quite certain Starmer will show his true colours pretty quickly when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late.

All of us on here are old enough to have lived through changes of government over the years, some we’ve voted for, others we most definitely haven’t and we’ve lived to tell the tale.

I’m trying to be philosophical about the current situation, but probably not succeeding.

One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy.

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 10:29:54

Sago

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

Which doesn't negate all the good things that the Labour government had done up until then.

Or did afterwards. Like saving the country from the effect of the Global financial Crisis.

It certainly doesn't justify the tories spending the last 14 years wrecking the country...

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:29:28

growstuff

Witzend

The other day I asked a young relative, a student doctor, who’s just finished her 3rd year, whether she was going to vote (for the first time).

No, because she hadn’t got around to registering.
I can’t help wondering how many students would say the same.

Yes, I wondered whether that had anything to do with the timing. University has finished, most students will have moved back home or be on holiday. I wouldn't mind betting that many of them aren't registered.

my son registered and they have not sent his voting card through

he got a First in Engineering btw smile

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:27:43

Lots of people are posting that meme about voting for the vulnerable on facebook but I can't help thinking whatever happens, we are all vulnerable. I haven;t seen much said about the vulnerable in debates, what will happen wrt social care etc

BigMamma Thu 04-Jul-24 10:20:49

The voting has started so we are in the hands of the voters and whoever wins the election we cannot do a thing about it, so as far as I am concerned I am not going to spend any sleepless nights worrying about it.

I have got to the ripe old age of my mid 80's and had a fantastic life, my only wish is that the young of today can live a life as good as the one I have lived.

Merion Thu 04-Jul-24 10:18:59

Nannytopsy

Am I right about how short NHS waiting lists were at the end of the Blair government? And we had SureStart and Connexions. It wasn’t a bad place to be.

A reminder of what Labour had achieved. Gordon Brown's 2009 speech to Conference. It's only a short clip anyway but the list of those achievements start from about a minute in with winter fuel Allowance, shorter waiting lists ... Sure Start, the Disability Discrimination Act, peace in Northern Ireland and many more.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfNyItl9J8w

Watch out for Alan Johnson's smiles.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:18:31

maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.

(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)

nanna8 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:14:43

Should make it compulsory perhaps ? Won’t happen there,though.

henetha Thu 04-Jul-24 10:13:11

The main thing is to actually vote. I hope there will be a good turnout. I find it hard to understand why people don't bother.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 10:11:55

Grantanow

I don't want another 14 miserable years of Tory chaos - long NHS waiting lists, can't see a GP, no dentist, poor housing, and sleaze of course.

How soon do you think you’ll be able to get a GP appointment speedily?

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:10:02

Sago

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

Yes, I remember that too - nothing wrong with my memory.

Sago Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:59

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:40

I think it's been an exciting election with Nigel Farage and the Reform Party. I obviously do not want a Labour government but I want the Conservatives out. I'm actually optimistic for the future and hope Reform will form the next government in 5 years time. Little acorns 🌳 Most Reform voters are upbeat and optimistic for the future because we believe in Reform unlike the Labour and Tory supporters.

Nannytopsy Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:03

Am I right about how short NHS waiting lists were at the end of the Blair government? And we had SureStart and Connexions. It wasn’t a bad place to be.