Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

Farage is nihilistic, he is only interested in destroying things, not in rebuilding or inspiring. As Varian illustrates he wanted brexit, but was not prepared to do anything to facilitate our exit from the EU or negotiate satisfactory terms for groups most likely to suffer as a result.

He could have been the eponymous lifeboat that goes and rescues fisherman and those at sea when they are in danger of death, instead he left the lifeboat rotting in its shed, stood down the crew and went off for a pint and a fag with his cronies. leaving the fishermen rudderless in a storm.

Farage may not be stupid but he is a charlatan. He became an MEP to act as an irritant at best and at worst a wrecking ball.

He and his fellow brexiters were outrageously rude, literly turning their backs on the chamber like silly badly behaved children.

He was the UK representative on the EU Fishing Committee and only attended one meeting out of 42. This explains why the UK fishermen got a raw deal. So many of them were conned by him and now regret it.

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-fisheries-uk-industry-betrayal/

That's why I was concerned after first thinking the post was in jest. It's not always easy to tell from text.

But others have expressed very similar views quite seriously.

Given the Conservatives entirely negative election campaign was based on trying to frighten people out of voting Labour by promising doom and disaster, it is inevitable that some will have fallen for it, so voted Reform . So my response was quite reasonable.

Good. 😎. I’ll call off the emergency services then. Honestly- the past week or so has been traumatic on here one way or another.

Monica and others, it was a very obvious joke.

MayBee70

….I don’t think she was being serious…..

I thought that at first, but then got worried. There is so much scaremongering and disinformation just now that anything’s possible.

….anyway, I’m ok cause I’m still working my way through my covid stockpile.

….I don’t think she was being serious…..

Was your post in jest, gulligranny? I really hope so. If not, what do you really think is the worst that might happen? I hate to think of anyone being as worried as that, and I’m sure there’s no need.

gulligranny

Doom hardly comes close. Mr G and I have been stockpiling the paracetamol and the alcohol, we will just have to end it all when it becomes too dreadful to contemplate or bear.

Good grief, I assume you have lived through as many changes of government as I have, I got the vote in 1964 and I have never voted for either of the major parties

I have just lived through various governments and have just watched them all being pretty much the same, a little lurch to the right with the Conservaatives, a small lurch to the left with labour, but nothing disastrous or frightening, until the lot that have just been quite justly chucked out.

In the end all of them are constrained by world events, whether financial, military, or cultural, and had to trim their sails to international winds.

I can see nothing in the new government to frighten anyone. For once we have a Prime Minister with a long and successful career before he entered politics, who has quietly turned round a totally unelectable party under Corbyn, into an electaable one under him. Which suggests he will not be a pushover if the left get restive.

The thing to worry about is, is how long is it going to take the Conservatives to rebuild themselves. I can see no one in their ranks of the calibre of Starmer. As someone said on the radio today, The Conservatives used to run on having in their midst big political beasts (think Kenneth Clark, Michael Heseltine) who could support the leader and keep the troops under control. Now the party has become a petting zoo, which is incapable of any leadership at all.

Fancy thinking of devastating and destroying your family just because you do not like the government. I will end as I started. Good grief!

Doom hardly comes close. Mr G and I have been stockpiling the paracetamol and the alcohol, we will just have to end it all when it becomes too dreadful to contemplate or bear.

MayBee70

Shinamae

Kandinsky

They’ve got 5 MP’s and they’ve only been a party for 5 minutes.
That’s very impressive. The Reform party have had a very successful campaign that’s for sure.

And they only had a few weeks to get it together I think they’ve done very well and I’m pleased that they have 5 MP’s I read it was four…(excellent if it is five) 🤓

You mean in their current incarnation I assume…

You can assume what you like..

Shinamae

Kandinsky

They’ve got 5 MP’s and they’ve only been a party for 5 minutes.
That’s very impressive. The Reform party have had a very successful campaign that’s for sure.

And they only had a few weeks to get it together I think they’ve done very well and I’m pleased that they have 5 MP’s I read it was four…(excellent if it is five) 🤓

You mean in their current incarnation I assume…

Reform now has 5 mp’s. In many areas, they split the Tory vote, allowing a Labour win. As LizzieDrip says, other than ‘stopping the boats’ in a way as yet unexplained, what do they believe in? He’s a disrupter appealing to angry disaffected people
Farage denies wanting to privatise the NHS. He speaks positively of Andrew Taite, suggesting this dangerous misogynist abuser, is a necessary role model for our young men.
So many of his supporters have been outed as racists.
Immigration has been raised by voters consistently. I hope the Reform vote was in part a vote of no confidence in the Conservatives. If the Conservatives can rebuild their party in the way Starmer has in the last 4 years.

And they only had a few weeks to get it together I think they’ve done very well and I’m pleased that they have 5 MP’s I read it was four…(excellent if it is five)

Shinamae do you know what Reform actually stands for, apart from eliminating all immigration? Do you support their proposals for the NHS and climate issues. They haven’t really said much about anything else!

Kandinsky

They’ve got 5 MP’s and they’ve only been a party for 5 minutes.
That’s very impressive. The Reform party have had a very successful campaign that’s for sure.

Sunak did not have to call a snap July election, a month ago Reform did not seem a credible threat, he probably thought they would not get their act together quickly enough.

He was wrong!

Sooner Farage, for this country, than the Islamists elected, and Corbyn, whose only thoughts are Palestine. Who would have thought we would let sectarian politics become the norm.

Dinahmo

PS and they won't need educating nor will they be a strain on the health system, because they are healthy. It is the elderly and old that are one of the causes of the strain.

Furthermore. many doctors, nurses and care workers have gone back to their original countries following Brexit.

Funnily enough I had an examination by a Rumanian doctor earlier this week. His English was very good.

Some went home, many stayed, some went home to families when pandemic broke out.

GrannyGravy13

Nigel Farage might be many things, but he is definitely not stupid.

Very true. I wouldn’t vote for him but I’m grateful to those who did.

Farage can be called a great many things but stupid is not one of them.

Kandinsky

They’ve got 5 MP’s and they’ve only been a party for 5 minutes.
That’s very impressive. The Reform party have had a very successful campaign that’s for sure.

And they only had a few weeks to get it together I think they’ve done very well and I’m pleased that they have 5 MP’s I read it was four…(excellent if it is five) 🤓

They’ve got 5 MP’s and they’ve only been a party for 5 minutes.
That’s very impressive. The Reform party have had a very successful campaign that’s for sure.

Nigel Farage might be many things, but he is definitely not stupid.

Primrose53

M0nica

Farage will find time to grandstand, whether in the Parliamentary chamber or outside it.

Farage is a stupid man. He is one of lifes disrupters, not a person to take responsibility, not a person to work with other people or put anybody elses interest ahead of his own. He is in many ways another Boris, loves strirring up he cr*p, but not interested in clearing it up.

He is in every way a clown, never happier than when performing in a public place while everyone stands round and claps him and urges him on.

M0nica I often enjoy reading your posts but on this you are very wrong.

NF is NOT stupid - look at what he has achieved in just under a month. I caught half of his speech this afternoon and he quite rightly pointed out that he speaks from the heart and doesn’t need notes. Starmer in his speech today had to look at his notes something like 120 times!

NF took on Brexit and won. He fought for the Post Office scandal and he took on the Banks and won there too. Where were all the others? They couldn’t care less.

Obviously you dislike him but millions do like him. Reform is the most followed party on social media by young people. His rally at Birmingham was sold out with 5,000 people at very short notice. Wherever he speaks, people turn up and listen. He is a great orator and he can get on with people from all walks of life.

I will remind you of your words in just a few months.😉

I totally agree with you, Primrose and you have put it much more eloquently than I could…..👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻