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Whitewavemark2 Sat 06-Jul-24 05:46:30

For those feeling nervous over the governments competence and who believe the propaganda put out by the right wing media, I thought I would start recording the day by day development of the governments activity.

Day 1
The PM appointed the cabinet, and was briefed by the permanent secretary.

The PM gave advice over urgent domestic issues needing immediate attention, as well as urgent security matters.

The Prime Minister signed off letters to the heads of the military, giving instructions over action in case of nuclear threat.

The Prime Minister will begin preparations for his NATO visit to Washington next week.

Sir Keir Starmer will have decided domestic issues over his living arrangements etc.

The Home Secretary -Yvette Cooper - killed the Rwanda plan. However it was disclosed by the Home Office that there was in fact no such plan in operation - no work had been carried out on any plan for months. So my goodness - was that one of the last lies told to the public by the previous government?

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 08:11:25

Does it matter that the new Attorney General is unable to speak in the House of Commons? That he is unelected? That he is a personal friend of the Prime Minister?

LizzieDrip Fri 12-Jul-24 08:15:27

Ten years does seem a very long time to wait for improvements ronib

It took the Tories fourteen years to virtually destroy the country - apparently that was fine🤷‍♀️ Ten years to repair it seems reasonable to me.

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 08:15:55

GG13 Lord Darzi has produced reports on the NHS advising free social care for the elderly. Can’t see any point in more reports with bullet points which are simply ignored by government.

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 08:18:32

LizzieDrip a touch dramatic? I hope that Wes Streeting isn’t brainwashing voters into believing that he has a ten year term!
So easy to forget history isn’t it LizzieDrip? Covid energy crisis war etc.

Casdon Fri 12-Jul-24 08:32:29

GrannyGravy13

maddyone

A lot of money to be spent on Inquiries then.

Yes millions of £’s

I don’t think there are many who don’t think an Inquiry into the way the NHS goes forward isn’t needed though. Certainly on Gransnet threads there has been widespread consensus about that?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 12-Jul-24 08:37:10

Casdon I totally understand the need for in depth meetings with the heads of NHS and personally think that is a more effective approach.

Enquiries cost £’s take years and by the time the results are made public the situation they have been investigating has generally moved on/changed.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Jul-24 08:54:23

ronib

Does it matter that the new Attorney General is unable to speak in the House of Commons? That he is unelected? That he is a personal friend of the Prime Minister?

Yet another human rights lawyer. Of course if this were the Conservatives people would be shouting about croneyism. I think it matters very much that someone holding this office cannot speak in the House of Commons.

David49 Fri 12-Jul-24 08:56:33

ronib

GG13 Lord Darzi has produced reports on the NHS advising free social care for the elderly. Can’t see any point in more reports with bullet points which are simply ignored by government.

It would of course be fairer if everybody contributed to social care through the taxation system instead of the unlucky minority that need longterm care.

None of us know in advance if we are going to need it, it can be called National Health Insurance!.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Jul-24 08:56:54

GrannyGravy13

Casdon I totally understand the need for in depth meetings with the heads of NHS and personally think that is a more effective approach.

Enquiries cost £’s take years and by the time the results are made public the situation they have been investigating has generally moved on/changed.

And will there be any significant improvements in the meantime? Will we literally die waiting?

Oreo Fri 12-Jul-24 09:40:15

It’s always a mistake with governments if they promise something and hint it will be along soon and then it either takes years or never happens.
Pre election talk is cheap.
I really hope the promised appointments will materialise.

Casdon Fri 12-Jul-24 09:40:25

Germanshepherdsmum

GrannyGravy13

Casdon I totally understand the need for in depth meetings with the heads of NHS and personally think that is a more effective approach.

Enquiries cost £’s take years and by the time the results are made public the situation they have been investigating has generally moved on/changed.

And will there be any significant improvements in the meantime? Will we literally die waiting?

The two are not mutually exclusive, to my knowledge, and to yours. Streeting will definitely not sit on his laurels and say the inquiry will have to come first.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Jul-24 09:48:05

Are you certain about that?

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 09:50:15

Why is no one understanding that there are previous NHS reports written by Darzi?

Casdon Fri 12-Jul-24 09:51:31

Yes Germanshepherdsmum I am. I’ve got contacts in the NHS and they are already working on their plans.

Callistemon213 Fri 12-Jul-24 09:59:34

LizzieDrip

^Ten years does seem a very long time to wait for improvements^ ronib

It took the Tories fourteen years to virtually destroy the country - apparently that was fine🤷‍♀️ Ten years to repair it seems reasonable to me.

I think they inherited a lot of problems from New Labour.
Have people forgotten such events as the Stafford Hospital and scandal at others? Hospitals were filthy, patients neglected.

The fact that new hospitals were built using PFI schemes for which we were still paying extortionate sums for years?

The huge exodus of newly qualified doctors overseas because, after qualifying, the system for applying for training places was chaotic?
Management of the system for allocating training places, known as Modernising Medical Careers (MMC), was "inept" and leadership at the Department of Health was "totally inadequate." Roles and responsibilities were "ill-defined" and lines of accountability were "irrational and blurred."
2008

Junior doctors were still working exhausting long hours. I remember an exhausted DN asking how they could safely deal with patients when they had been working such long hours without sleep and the Consultant replied that they'd done it in their day, why shouldn't you?
At least the EWTD was fully introduced in 2009.

Thd NHS was far from perfect then, which is no excuse for not improving things, of course.

MayBee70 Fri 12-Jul-24 10:07:19

ronib

Does it matter that the new Attorney General is unable to speak in the House of Commons? That he is unelected? That he is a personal friend of the Prime Minister?

I don’t seem to recall people complaining that Johnson had taken on Suella Braverman as Attorney General; not because she would be honest and upright but because she would be happy to let him try to be above the law. Especially as she then went on to be removed from positions of her own because of wrongdoing.

Callistemon213 Fri 12-Jul-24 10:09:57

news.sky.com/story/labour-accused-of-hospital-scandal-cover-up-10432444

www.politico.eu/article/12-people-who-ruined-the-nhs-national-health-service-british-waiting-lists-debt/

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Jul-24 10:13:07

Casdon

Yes Germanshepherdsmum I am. I’ve got contacts in the NHS and they are already working on their plans.

Perhaps you could enlighten us because Streeting isn’t doing so.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 12-Jul-24 10:22:01

GrannyGravy13

maddyone

A lot of money to be spent on Inquiries then.

Yes millions of £’s

Can you explain to me why enquiries into the state of the various issues/major problems are unnecessary?

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 10:24:01

MayBee70 At least Suella Braverman spoke in the House of Commons. Labour has a past history of appointing Attorney Generals from outside the House of Commons.
I wonder if Emily Thornberry understands what is happening? Perhaps she will be the stand in AG?

Callistemon213 Fri 12-Jul-24 10:27:52

ronib

MayBee70 At least Suella Braverman spoke in the House of Commons. Labour has a past history of appointing Attorney Generals from outside the House of Commons.
I wonder if Emily Thornberry understands what is happening? Perhaps she will be the stand in AG?

I wonder if Emily is hopping mad?

MayBee70 Fri 12-Jul-24 10:44:18

I assume the new Attorney General is a practicing lawyer? Isn’t it better to have someone up to speed with all things legal than someone that used to be a lawyer and also has constituency stuff to deal with, too. Of course, Cox had even more stuff to deal with outside of parliament too, didn’t he? There’s going to be a lot of legal stuff involved with Labours plans for the future of this country.

Mollygo Fri 12-Jul-24 10:44:21

I’d really like to know how Starmer is greeting Biden, when, if I understand correctly, KS thinks those over 80 should not work in the HOL.

ronib Fri 12-Jul-24 10:47:41

Isn’t the standard address Mollygo

President Putin

Regardless?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Jul-24 10:53:51

MayBee70

I assume the new Attorney General is a practicing lawyer? Isn’t it better to have someone up to speed with all things legal than someone that used to be a lawyer and also has constituency stuff to deal with, too. Of course, Cox had even more stuff to deal with outside of parliament too, didn’t he? There’s going to be a lot of legal stuff involved with Labours plans for the future of this country.

Of course the AG is a practising lawyer. There are plenty of good practising senior barristers to choose from without going for a human rights specialist. He will not be up to speed with ‘all things legal’, he is a human rights lawyer and will continue to practise as such.

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