The first 100 days.

ronib

Casdon I think we shall have to agree to disagree - Disneyland is an apt description. Let’s be clear- an electorate of 47 million. Votes for Labour 9 million.
Seats 400 plus .

By my age I have come to understand how British democracy works ronib, have you? Labour were the electors’ choice in 412 seats out of 650. Hence they are the government. Voter share is irrelevant, as it always has been. That’s how it works, in case you were going off down a blind alley.

Whether the pledges Labour have made will be delivered remains to be seen, but most serious political commentators are saying it will be a year before we see to what extent they are delivering. You may suggest that you know better than they do, and judging after 7 days in office holds water, but what you really mean is that you want them to fail, not that they are failing.

ally unlicensed = allay public
Heaven knows how AutoCorrect change my words!

ronib

Mollygo there are insufficient prison cells to house the next tranche of offenders so there’s a crisis about what to do. Hence the panic….

^ Hence the panic . . . *
You seem to imply I’m disagreeing with the policy of early release. I’m not. I do feel that sweeping statements without any clarification of the follow up for those released to ally unlicensed concerns.

Hence the panic from people hearing the government are going to release prisoners early,
without any clarification of
which prisoners,
for which crimes
plan for what will happen to these prisoners on their release

And the additional worry of a description of non-serious violent offenders.

Casdon I think we shall have to agree to disagree - Disneyland is an apt description. Let’s be clear- an electorate of 47 million. Votes for Labour 9 million.
Seats 400 plus .

One more month, then we will have the data that will underpin the figures that the benchmark can be set against (I’m being generous as the election results weren’t known until 5th July.)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv2gvkq49x8t?post=asset%3A1387dfdf-c87e-4fe8-a732-f4220b58801d#post
There is always a dip in NHS performance in July and August due to senior staff holidays, which results in treatment waiting lists increasing. Performance will return to normal levels in September.

ronib

Wwm2 just have a little reread of your party’s manifesto promises on health. Then you might understand our disappointment at yet more broken promises and not even into day 7 of the new regime.

Hoist by your own petard there ronib. As you rightly point out the election was a week ago. Only the terminally deluded and people who are on a wind up expected miracles. This isn’t Disneyland.

The Labour manifesto is still available online and hasn’t been taken down …. Yet.

Wwm2 just have a little reread of your party’s manifesto promises on health. Then you might understand our disappointment at yet more broken promises and not even into day 7 of the new regime.

What a very unpleasant comment wwm.

We were led to believe that these additional appointments would be happening in short order. Almost ‘oven ready’. No mention has been made of them since the election. The extra appointments were promised when everyone knew the state of the NHS.

Germanshepherdsmum

Where are all these thousands of hospital appointments which were magically going to appear?

You sound like a child in the back of a car

“Are we there yet?”

No understanding of the journey in front of us.

The proof will be in the official waiting list figures. Speculation is cheap, but the figures over the next year, and the next five years are what will count.
I’ve helped because I took myself off the Oral Surgery waiting list yesterday. I’d waited so long to have a tooth out that I went privately.

Yes karmalady, a pretty accurate summary.

ronib

Gsm maybe we have to wait for the rebuild?

I was under the impression that the extra appointments were going to be happening very quickly - Streeting had been speaking with clinicians and it was all do-able. A number of us expressed doubts, pointing out that appointments and procedures were happening in the evenings and at weekends already and the number of clinicians is finite. Seems we weren’t wrong.

All these released prisoners will need to be housed as well as the people who have been granted legal status after the Rwanda scheme was cancelled. I make that a total of 140,000. There will still be a big problem finding homes for our homeless, such as ex-servicemen and women. I cannot see cheap-enough housing being available for families. Smoke, mirrors and conjuring

And the survey

Gsm maybe we have to wait for the rebuild?

Where are all these thousands of hospital appointments which were magically going to appear?

Casdon

A lighter event, from the tour of the UK, this was in the Senedd. The end is a lovely moment.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjWI-oml5Js

That was beautiful, thank you Casdon, such lovely voices.

The looks on the children's faces was priceless too.

The most optimistic proposal from Wes Streeting is to appoint Lord Darzi to survey the NHS before its rebuild. Apparently over 10 years so the waiting lists won’t go down any time soon?

14 years of Conservative government has left the country in a great place - NOT!

Mollygo there are insufficient prison cells to house the next tranche of offenders so there’s a crisis about what to do. Hence the panic….

👏👏👏

Casdon

We probably need to give the government somewhat longer than 6 days to declare precisely where they are going with this.

I agree.
Before they make statements e.g. about early release of prisoners or categories of non-serious violent offenders would it not be more rational to have in place explanations or exemplifications of precisely where they are going with this rather than raising public concern about these things which appear to have no planned outcomes except for saying early release of prisoners.

Europe

Labour is seeking a sweeping joint declaration with the EU to usher in a wide-ranging security pact covering defence, energy, the climate crisis, pandemics and even illegal migration.

We probably need to give the government somewhat longer than 6 days to declare precisely where they are going with this.