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M0nica Sat 06-Jul-24 12:19:26

James Timpson, son of John Timpson of the eponymous Shoe repairers has been appointed Minister for prisons, Parole and probation.

To quote his Wikipedia biography:

Known for advocating the employment of former prisoners, he was the Chair of the Employers Forum for Reducing Re-offending (EFFRR) until 2016, and became Chair of the Prison Reform Trust that same year. He also founded the Employment Advisory Board network across the prison estate, which links prisons with employers to improve the employment opportunities for ex-offenders upon release.

His father, John Timpson and his late wife introduced a policy of employing ex-offenders in their shop and, I think 10% of employees, including some managers are ex-offenders.

James Timpson is not an MP but is being given a peerage.

Another inspired appointment in a similar vane is Sir Patrick Vallance, who was the then government's Chief Scientific Officer during the COVID pandemic. He has been appointed Minister of State for Science in the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology. Again not an MP, but becoming a peer.

And, finally, a politician Hilary Benn is Minister for Northern Ireland, always a can of worms, ut his skill in navigating the Corbyn years, without commitment or condemnation always wom my admiration. After that Northern ireland should be a doddle!!!

BeverleyJB Sun 07-Jul-24 13:03:54

Urmstongran

Was that for real? 😱
Surely a set up/joke GG13? I can’t imagine Lammy could be so dim. Although he is rather too focused on race for my liking (ditto Lenny Henry).

If you don't think Lammy could be that dim, check out his appearance on Celebrity Mastermind. He also believes that a man can “grow” a cervix if he is treated with hormones hmm

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jul-24 13:17:43

They’ve got Alan Milburn on board now, too! He’s Rory Stewart’s hero. ( There’s a Leading podcast with him, too).

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 07-Jul-24 13:21:28

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jul-24 13:28:04

Mark Carney is advising Rachel Reeves. I read not long ago how much he admires her.

Casdon Sun 07-Jul-24 13:28:07

MayBee70

They’ve got Alan Milburn on board now, too! He’s Rory Stewart’s hero. ( There’s a Leading podcast with him, too).

I’m really pleased about that, he’s very skilled and experienced. I’d be sweating if I was trying to manage NHS waiting lists now, as he knows his onions.

GrannySomerset Sun 07-Jul-24 13:34:02

Perhaps at last we will have a government of all the talents, often promised but never achieved. Signs are definitely promising.

Wyllow3 Sun 07-Jul-24 13:48:51

Germanshepherdsmum

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

It's a wait and see on that appointment for me. One mess up on tweets and the colour of the pope's smoke doesn't rule him out as capable:

Very serious immediate issues on Palestine to deal with which are going got soon emerge, but he's already made several moves to re-connect with EU allies Nato wise to work closely together, which may be crucial if Trump gets in re Ukraine.

I have no doubt if he fails there will be a cabinet shuffle.

Casdon Sun 07-Jul-24 13:52:43

Wyllow3

Germanshepherdsmum

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

It's a wait and see on that appointment for me. One mess up on tweets and the colour of the pope's smoke doesn't rule him out as capable:

Very serious immediate issues on Palestine to deal with which are going got soon emerge, but he's already made several moves to re-connect with EU allies Nato wise to work closely together, which may be crucial if Trump gets in re Ukraine.

I have no doubt if he fails there will be a cabinet shuffle.

That’s the key difference with Starmer’s way of doing things I think, if Lammy or anybody else doesn’t meet their targets or do their job well enough it will be goodbye. The cabinet will be accountable and performance managed, which is a refreshing change - and how it should always have been in my view.

NotSpaghetti Sun 07-Jul-24 13:59:45

I would like to see him work WITH the Tories (and others) to set a plan for the NHS.
One that everyone signs up to for (say) 20 years...

kittylester Sun 07-Jul-24 14:04:05

I agree NotSpaghetti.

Freya5 Sun 07-Jul-24 14:05:38

Germanshepherdsmum

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

Well, I hope, he will very likely become unstuck before long. I cannot understand how anyone thinks this man will hold his own against world leaders.

Casdon Sun 07-Jul-24 14:06:34

I do too, I think the Lib Dem’s would join the debate, not so sure about the Tories - but it would be good to offer, at least.

Casdon Sun 07-Jul-24 14:07:20

Casdon

I do too, I think the Lib Dem’s would join the debate, not so sure about the Tories - but it would be good to offer, at least.

Sorry, that was for NotSpaghetti.

Wyllow3 Sun 07-Jul-24 14:08:41

NotSpaghetti

I would like to see him work WITH the Tories (and others) to set a plan for the NHS.
One that everyone signs up to for (say) 20 years...

Ideally indeed it a "yes".

It rather depends on what kind of Tory opposition we have in terms of key areas of NHS policy, I haven't a clear idea atm of what the Tories represent, will take some sorting out time wise I think.

Aveline Sun 07-Jul-24 14:17:23

Serious collaborative working between experienced people of all parties would be a good start re NHS

NotSpaghetti Sun 07-Jul-24 14:24:58

I'm sure that anyone with the good of the country foremost in their mind ought to want to be involved.

But yes, some may prefer to go their own way entirely. 😕

NotSpaghetti Sun 07-Jul-24 14:25:24

And you could say the same for Social Care.

Wyllow3 Sun 07-Jul-24 14:39:11

Social Care is linked in with NHS in manifesto, (Wes Streeting and Bridget Phillipson) I would have like to have seen more specifics though.

Dickens Sun 07-Jul-24 15:14:17

Aveline

Serious collaborative working between experienced people of all parties would be a good start re NHS

... wouldn't it just!

In fact I believe it might be the only way forward.

The NHS, and social-care, is too important - and the organisation, re-structing, funding, etc, too important an issue to be left as a party-political-football.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 07-Jul-24 15:23:06

Wyllow3

Germanshepherdsmum

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

It's a wait and see on that appointment for me. One mess up on tweets and the colour of the pope's smoke doesn't rule him out as capable:

Very serious immediate issues on Palestine to deal with which are going got soon emerge, but he's already made several moves to re-connect with EU allies Nato wise to work closely together, which may be crucial if Trump gets in re Ukraine.

I have no doubt if he fails there will be a cabinet shuffle.

He is on record as saying that POTUS Trump is KKK and an out and out racist, this might come back to bite him if Trump is re-elected in November.

He also thinks trans women (men) have can have a cervix…

Dickens Sun 07-Jul-24 15:46:41

Germanshepherdsmum

I seriously don’t rate Lammy. I was amazed at his appointment.

...hmm, he's a bit of a loose cannon - or maybe more a toy-gun.

As Wyllow3 says, it's wait-and-see.

foxie48 Sun 07-Jul-24 17:16:35

David Lammy has been in politics a long time and has strong views however as we moved nearer to a possible election he definitely moderated his views. I'm another who thinks we need to give him a chance to settle into the role. He's clearly not stupid, first black Briton to go to Harvard Law school and he was offered a front bench position by Blair but refused it to work as a social justice campaigner. He's another who has had his life changed by education and who understands what it is to be disadvantaged in life which gets a big tick from me as I want a government who creates a more equal society. Saturday Telegraph Money section main article was "How to save your wealth from the Labour landslide"! Don't bother to read it as it was just wild speculation and fear mongering.

NotSpaghetti Sun 07-Jul-24 17:20:41

foxie48 there is a thread about saving your money from Labour.
Maybe they picked up on that? grin

growstuff Sun 07-Jul-24 18:33:35

The Foreign Secretary before David Cameron was James Cleverly. I honestly don't think David Lammy will be any worse.

LizzieDrip Sun 07-Jul-24 18:56:42

I honestly feel a huge sense of relief. It feels like the grown ups are back in charge smile