Yvette Cooper / Migrant Watch / Stopping The Boats

Casdon I agree BUT this has happened very gradually over many centuries.

RIP to all of those people who have died. So very very sad.

The UK already is a multicultural society Skydancer, it always has been. Vikings, Romans etc. etc?

Growstuff Sorry we do NOT need any more people. We need to train people already here. Multiculturalism does not work. This country is changing fast and I suspect that most people who think immigration is a good thing do not live in parts of the country where it has already changed the landscape and not for the better.

The Rwanda plan was instigated over 3 years ago and achieved nothing other than draining the country of a lot of money. And yet people are complaining that Labour haven’t achieved anything even though they’ve been in government for less than two weeks.

Witzend

Nicenanny3

French police stand by and watch the boats leave for Britain. Now you are in charge Yvette Cooper what's your plan after you cancelled the Rwanda deterrent?

Can’t say I’m surprised. France doesn’t want them.

Rwanda plan wasn't deterring anyone...

Nicenanny3

French police stand by and watch the boats leave for Britain. Now you are in charge Yvette Cooper what's your plan after you cancelled the Rwanda deterrent?

Can’t say I’m surprised. France doesn’t want them.

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Chestnut murder is never a joke, but migrants legal or illegal is vastly becoming a sport on GN

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

growstuff

Chestnut

Mt61

All I can say is, I am glad I am on my way out & not on my in, dread to think what this country is going to be like in 10/20 years time. Think of the legacy you are leaving for your grandchildren

It makes me weep to think of what my children will have to face in their old age, and what my lovely grandchildren will have to endure in 30 or 40 years time. You can see where this country is heading just by watching the news reports.

Where's it heading? I bet you didn't know where the country was heading 40 years ago.

I definitely knew which way it was heading 30 years ago and was spot on. Now every time I look at the news someone has been stabbed, body parts in suitcases etc.

What on earth has the Bristol incident got to do with migration?

It doesn't. However, as Chestnut has powers of clairvoyancy, maybe she should have suggested banning suitcases. Apparently there's somebody been stabbed and stuffed in a suitcase "every time" she looks at the news. Wow! That's an awful lot of suitcases not being used for their intended purpose.

How people love to twist words. Not what I said. Every time I look at the news someone has been stabbed. TRUE.

Body parts in suitcases relates to one incident but shocking all the same. What has it to do with immigration? Well the guy responsible is a Columbian national who could not speak English. We have yet to discover why he killed those two men. he has no links to the UK so what was he doing here and how did he get in?

No need to be sarcastic or flippant about what are serious subjects involving the murder of innocent Brits. This is no joke.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit growstuff. You know what Chestnut meant - daily reports of violent crime are deeply troubling.

Unlimited illegal immigration makes my blood boil but I would not make unpleasant comments to posters on this forum who feel differently to me.

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

growstuff

Chestnut

Mt61

All I can say is, I am glad I am on my way out & not on my in, dread to think what this country is going to be like in 10/20 years time. Think of the legacy you are leaving for your grandchildren

It makes me weep to think of what my children will have to face in their old age, and what my lovely grandchildren will have to endure in 30 or 40 years time. You can see where this country is heading just by watching the news reports.

Where's it heading? I bet you didn't know where the country was heading 40 years ago.

I definitely knew which way it was heading 30 years ago and was spot on. Now every time I look at the news someone has been stabbed, body parts in suitcases etc.

What on earth has the Bristol incident got to do with migration?

It doesn't. However, as Chestnut has powers of clairvoyancy, maybe she should have suggested banning suitcases. Apparently there's somebody been stabbed and stuffed in a suitcase "every time" she looks at the news. Wow! That's an awful lot of suitcases not being used for their intended purpose.

Those who insist that asylum seekers won’t be provided with housing - where and how are they going to live? Many are unlikely to find legal employment, not speaking English, probably possessing no useful skills and unable to pass a DBS check. Others may find minimum wage employment. Are they going to be left homeless and without access to benefits? I very much doubt it.

BevSec

WWM2 that is a truly unpleasant remark you have made to Primrose.

Yes I know and I fully expect to be deleted, but free listening to conversation yesterday between. Immigrants my blood is still boiling

Freya5

Wyllow3

Iam64

Well said growstuff

What do the anti refugee/asylum seeker posters suggest is to be done. Rwanda -illegal even if we are prepared to disregard human need

Wars and climate change means the need to try and get to safety will increase. It’s a global problem. It needs international co-operation.

Rwanda:

Meanwhile in Rwanda, 22.000 prisoners from the appalling genocide in the 1990's are being released this year.

www.justiceinfo.net/en/130199-rwanda-2200-genocidaires-released-2024-who-are-they.html#:~:text=And%2C%20according%20to%20the%20SCR,the%20Tutsi%20genocide%20in%201994.

There are also tensions with the Congo

"Rwanda-backed rebels are choking the Congolese people, yet this is one conflict the world can easily end"

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/11/rwanda-militias-drc-goma

Safe as houses for us to operate there still?.

There has always been tension with the Congo, nothing new, been going on and off for many years.

So?

Germanshepherdsmum

Nobody can possibly know what skills those coming here on boats have. We don’t need them. They are unlikely ever to be anything but a drain on our resources and a source of trouble.

But we do know what skills the vast majority of immigrants have! The ones who come on boats are a minority of immigrants.

Wyllow3

Iam64

Well said growstuff

What do the anti refugee/asylum seeker posters suggest is to be done. Rwanda -illegal even if we are prepared to disregard human need

Wars and climate change means the need to try and get to safety will increase. It’s a global problem. It needs international co-operation.

Rwanda:

Meanwhile in Rwanda, 22.000 prisoners from the appalling genocide in the 1990's are being released this year.

www.justiceinfo.net/en/130199-rwanda-2200-genocidaires-released-2024-who-are-they.html#:~:text=And%2C%20according%20to%20the%20SCR,the%20Tutsi%20genocide%20in%201994.

There are also tensions with the Congo

"Rwanda-backed rebels are choking the Congolese people, yet this is one conflict the world can easily end"

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/11/rwanda-militias-drc-goma

Safe as houses for us to operate there still?.

There has always been tension with the Congo, nothing new, been going on and off for many years.

Primrose53

Coronation

I don't understand why people are willing to risk their lives and pay smugglers when Europe is safe?

Because they are told our streets are paved with gold! 😉

In a way, I guess they are because, they are given everything they need when they arrive and you can bet your bottom dollar they will be given houses from those that Labour say they will build.

I asked the question on here yesterday “what other country in the world could you turn up in and expect to be given a house”. Obviously I got no reply from the people who want as many in as possible. 🤣🤣

Of course you didn't get an answer - it's not true!

BevSec

WWM2 that is a truly unpleasant remark you have made to Primrose.

Saying it as it is - maybe WW has become a Farage-follower.

WWM2 that is a truly unpleasant remark you have made to Primrose.

I give this quote first prize for ignorance and xenophobia

Hear, hear WW.

Speaking to my teenage GC about the immigration issue makes me proud of young people (obviously a small sample) - their views are far more tolerant, thoughtful and well-researched than many posters on GN. At least there might be hope for the future!

Lorilee

I read an Egyptian and Algerian asylum seekers stole a mans expensive watch admitted to robbery but spared going to prison and got community service, why aren't they being deported.

Quite. First time anybody steps out of line deport them.

Primrose53

Coronation

I don't understand why people are willing to risk their lives and pay smugglers when Europe is safe?

Because they are told our streets are paved with gold! 😉

In a way, I guess they are because, they are given everything they need when they arrive and you can bet your bottom dollar they will be given houses from those that Labour say they will build.

I asked the question on here yesterday “what other country in the world could you turn up in and expect to be given a house”. Obviously I got no reply from the people who want as many in as possible. 🤣🤣

I give this quote first prize for ignorance and xenophobia.

I sent a very enjoyable graduation meal with a number of young graduates including my DGS his week, and sat listening to their conversation. So included in the usual young persons talk were more serious issues. A number of the graduates were as they described themselves with wry grins “minorities” and I was ashamed and horrified at some of the experiences that these young people had gone through. One - a micro-biology graduate had been born in Nepal high up in the Himalayas, had been brought up in Kathmandu and then been brought to the U.K. by her parents as her father was following in his fathers footsteps and serving the British Crown in the Gurkhas. She has been working in retail whilst reading micro- biology and I listened with horror as some of the experiences she had encountered at the hands of customers.

Another a Japanese student, who had read electrical engineering, and had hoped to settle n the U.K. because she was an Anglophile had decided that her rotten experiences made her decide to return to Japan with her skills which we could so badly do with in the U.K.

There was a lot of laughter at what they had experienced, but I felt utterly ashamed and horrified in equal measure at frankly the pig-ignorance of some British.